TRUE PATRIOTS
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wesmont87
wesmont87 (12 hours ago)
[quote]You need to stop posting these hurtful videos and comments RIGHT NOW. It's scumbags like you that make it difficult for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS?? I have children, and I want their neighborhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!! I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail. [/quote]
Found the above comment on this youtube profile. Now keep in mind this might just have been some douchbag snitch trying to keep tabs and make their weekend monitoring go better. The profile page has no activity, videos watched ect.
Shy of laughing and wondering if wesmont87 has serious issues, let's break this down.
What hurtful videos? The ones that are there to help targets?
Next accusation making it difficult law abiding citizens to do their jobs. What jobs? (for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. )
Oh that job,the one that we like to call driving to suicide, false institutionalization, false imprisonment, and mass shooting, with some gaslighting and mobbing on the side. Oh that job. My bad.
Maybe I am just overly logical, but it is not the job of informants, deputized citizens, snitches what have you to enter homes, monitor or inspect them. Maybe your rule books say otherwise, but from my delusional world view of democracy and democratic countries, that's simply not right or legal.
The activities you mention fall into Cointelpro and Stasi type activities and should be exposed to the fullest extent of the law, maybe go back to your slave handler and check your rule books.
Also since you are monitoring and tracking these people how do you know they are criminals and that it's not just false information? What evidence do you have? Cause if they are such criminals, why does it take years to monitor individuals and not just months?
The next accusation.
{Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS}
Actually there is no getting off on this stuff, what a lack of imagination you have. It is however in the best interest of myself and other target to call evil for what it is. What is happening now is beyond vigilantism, it's murder in many cases, forced suicide in others, it's unjust victimization, and if you think calling the evil for what it is as insulting true patriots you have another thing coming. True Patriots, true citizens would be right here with me trying to expose this very evil that is trying to destroy the democracy that their ancestors worked so hard for. True Patriots would be the first in line to say that we will not stand for such unjust actions, that would be the voice of true patriots and they would be right here with me, not on the side of evil, which is the side that you are on, wither you choose to see it or not.
Next thing to ponder this person has kids. God help our kind if these kids grow up with the same mentality, if by taking away the freedom of others and destroying innocent lives, if this is how you choose to secure a future for your children, you are going about it the wrong way. The only future you will ensure for them is enslavement, such as the former East Germany. A future where free thought and speech are not allowed. If this is how you envision a safer world for your kids, you have a lot more imagining to do, or you have ever low goals.
{I have children, and I want their neighbourhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!!}
Also you know what, Gang Stalking targets have kids, many who have had to watch their kids be tortured and burnt, screaming out in pain. Ramona Lopez says her grandchild has been chipped, others have kids where they have almost killed their kids, by doing such fun things as putting water in diabetic medication. Many others would like to have kids, and families, but as long as psychopathic people like you exist they will not be able to.
Next bit from this person.
{I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail.}
At the rate these countries are going, this might happen in time, but while there is still freedom, there are still officers that do not agree with this garbage, I know this for a fact, they want this out as well.
So to get this straight, the country and future this person wants is a non democratic future, where dissenting idea, or unjust practices are allowed, and innocent people get jailed for pointing it out. Luckily there are still many in the world that do not think this way, and who understand that by destroying the freedom of one, you will eventually destroy the freedom of others.
Unfortunately from my research this sort almost proves to be incapable of understanding such simple truths, such simple facts. This was the case in Nazi Germany, destroy those people over there to ensure that our Fatherland is secure, and they too went about it with impunity, much to the detriment of those targeted.
Come to Stasi Germany same thing, they believed the lies of the state, they did what this person claims to be doing now, destroyed innocent lives, followed the innocent around, made sure they were disinfranchized and swore they were doing the just thing.
Come Cointelpro, same thing, those evil radicals, John Lennon, panthers, the same things, same justifications, more lives destroyed, everyone at the time thinking that their actions were just. However history has pointed the finger, tried all three time periods and labelled each as evil. We are taught to never let such things happen again, yet here we are doing a repete, and if this comment is real, hearing the same lame justifications as before, while innocent men, women and children have their lives decimated.
You and yours are the reason me and my kind can not stop, you are the reason we must continue to fight to see this new wall broken down, this new Cointelpro (the same one, different day.) exposed, and yes this unjust evil must never be allowed to happen again. TRUE PATRIOTS you will head the call, you will hear me and you will work with me, so that this evil future that is envisioned by some, where the innocent are destroyed in this way, does not happen. You will do everything that you can to see this evil time like the rest lands where it belongs, and you will help me in trying to right these wrongs. This is the side that true patriots would be on.
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Labels: Citizen Informants, cointelpro, East Germany, gang stalking, Stasi, True Patriots
posted by gang stalking @ 5:00 PM
8 Comments:
Geesh, that guy sounded like a textbook troll. Some idiot loser trying to ruffle your feathers. These people don't even pretend to be "watch" around here: they know I know full well what their true game is, and just "flaunt" their perp "colors" as though it were a badge. remember a lot of these people are delusional. A lot of kids are "programmed" these days to hate targets. One girl around here said a little 4-year-old walked up to her and called her a bitch, and the parents just watched like the idiots they were.
That idiot troll's comments had a strong sarcastic ring to them, as well as a hint of rubbing you the wrong way.
I didn't know if it was a guy/girl or a troll trying to check in and see if I was online. The problem is I have heard at least one person whine in a similar way offline, so instead of dismissing it, on the small chance that it is a real person and not a troll, I decided to respond the way I would if it was a real person with these concerns.
Some of the ones I know think they are helping being good citizens, watching dangerous people. I don't know how to break it to them. They want to feel proud of their roles, and in some cases some good get's done, I am sure, but in the case of Targeted Individuals I just want them to know that they are destroying many of us, and some just don't want to see it that way.
I have had targets tell horrible tales of what they get little kids to do. One guy said that someone tried got their little kid to try to make him look like a pedophile, I won't go into the details, but I can't imagine any sane parent doing what they did.
I don't think it rubbed me the wrong way, it could even have been propaganda from one of them to say hey this is making our jobs more difficult. I hardly ever talk about what we are doing and how it looks from their point of view.
This gave me some perspective which I had lost about how some of them might see this, and it's important that they understand why targets have to expose this. It's not to harm anyone, but we need to stop the bad that is happening.
The ones that I know are not delusional, many are just regular folks, and sometimes if they have not been around me before and I am having a bad day, I can see where it might make them think that yes that person is odd, or anti-social. I am very social under the right conditions, but government systemic destruction, just does not whip me into a verbal social frenzy.
Anyways I had a bad day recently and made a comment to some of the informants which I am not proud of, but I hardly ever have days like that. I think this is the second time this has ever happened, and it's not who I am, but it's surprising that if you let it, that is who you can become.
Anyways I will strive to make sure that I keep in mind how things might look from their perspective and some of the propaganda that they might be getting told about Targeted Individuals and our activism.
That would be a tough role. My perps, in their spam to me, pass messages on what they plan to do. It sounds like "they" might be part of some organization, like they are contracted out to do the job. I assume the military is working with the "elite" to carry this out, but that is just a small part of this larger system.
Again, when there is a gathering around me, I hear talk that "he is never going to change". I keep hearing about this "change" that's supposed to come over me, like "they" want me to conform to be what they want me to be. A lot of times, the perps tell me they are giving me measures of protection while I am being contained and jailed by their system.
The society has always been like this. From the Red Squads to McCarthyism, to Cointelpro to now. The truth is Citizen Informants have always been a part of these democratic societies. We have targets who are saying, this was happening to them for 25 years plus, some saying it happened to parents and grandparents.
The only difference now is that with Community Policing Programs, have joined with Corporations, local foundations, Federal level crime enforcement programs, and all the dirty tricks have been passed down the line. Also keep in mind that after the fall of the Berlin wall, many of those informants came to these countries, and don't you think their skills were continually employed?
The only reason that this is being reported is because targets can now connect, speak out and compare stories, plus we can look at the history of the Stasi, and Cointelpro and they are extremely similar.
Both state run, both used informants, both had life disruptions. However the Stasi I have not yet found cross country collaboration, but i did find this with Cointelrpo. With Cointelpro in the past, different government cooperated to follow and monitor targets. Same as what we are seeing now, same dirty tricks, same life disruption. Just local programs have been married to these higher ones and thus why we are seeing employees put someone on a list and you get this sort of life disruption.
Some of this activity started when I was working for a company which I didn't know was building databases of information on private citizens with government (taxpayers) money. The kicker was that they were using the money to outsource keyboarding to Beijing, Bangalore, and the Phillipines.
This was in 1997. The floor spy was this woman busybody in my group who it was said went around and it was part of her job to collect information about people on our floor. Being a private person she couldn't get much out of me. This irked her I guess. So she sent the other women in the unit on a bullying mission at me. Well, I didn't have a husband or children and this became a constant irritant. They could not seem to get their pea brains around the fact that a woman wouldn't have these two essentials. They kept on and on this sensitive topic...
I couldn't stand it anymore. And I was rude to them in the end. I just wished they would shut up and let me do my job. Came time for a review and I don't know how I heard a conversation two cubicles away, but I did. And the news was quite alarming. My review was coming up and my creepy supervisor, who is a local political operative, told another woman supervisor what was about to happen to me. He was going to say that I was violent or dangerous or something and if I didn't agree to get some help that they would escort me out the door with armed guards. They have a private force.
I just packed up the things I wanted that day and left for good. They tried everything they could to get me to come back on the campus. Well, that wasn't going to ever happen. I got calls from my manager at my new job and I finally told him what I had heard. And he denied it. But it made no sense that they would want to have one last lunch with me and say goodbye.
But that was the start of a real mental adventure. Then the new company was bought by what I know know is a defense contractor who is implicated in supplying Home land Insecurity with weapons which have since been used in the gang stalking field. Nice!
About that time I (thought I) became telepathic. Never was before. Heard about the fall of the Baht currency, Ahmed Ressam coming over from Canada, and of course good old nineleven! Oh, yes. There was some experimentin' going on. I thought the gypsy woman upstairs never slept, noise campaigns. Fibromyalgia, (I thought.)
Now I can see none of that was natural. But the gang stalkers are quite real!
Some of this activity started when I was working for a company which I didn't know was building databases of information on private citizens with government (taxpayers) money. The kicker was that they were using the money to outsource keyboarding to Beijing, Bangalore, and the Phillipines.
This was in 1997. I was bullied for not having a husband or children daily to the point of tears. And the floor snitch decided to get rid of me. Privacy was a crime in that corp. I overheard my group manager say they were going to call me a security risk. When the woman he was talking to said she didn't think so. He said, "I said we are just going to call her that." I just packed up the things I wanted that day and left for good. They tried everything they could to get me to come back on the campus. Well, that wasn't going to ever happen. I got calls from my manager at my new job and I finally told him what I had heard. And he denied it. But it made no sense that they would want to have one last lunch with me and say goodbye. That company new runs Reu+ters.
But that was the start of a real mental adventure. Then the new company was bought by what I know know is a de fense con tractor who is implicated in supplying Home land In-security with weapons which have since been used in the gang stalking field. Nice!
About that time I (thought I) became telepathic. Never was before. Heard about the fall of the Baht currency at night in my head, saw Ahmed Ressam coming over from Canada, and of course good old nineleven! The whole thing. 1997. Oh, yes. There was some experimentin' going on. I thought the gypsy woman upstairs never slept, noise campaigns. Fibromyalgia (I thought.)
Now I can see none of that was natural. But the gang stalkers are quite real!
Sorry, I forgot to say that my divination gifts during the time I became clairvoiant or whatever it is called.
For predicting the fall of the obscure currency, it was around 6 months, and the same with the Ressam prediction.
As for nine leven, well, I was really being a strong clairvoiant predicting machine and had all the details four years, yes four, before that came true.
I felt so terrible, that I told a reporter and photographer from the Saint Paul Pioneer Press soon after the "readings" began. They just walked up to my table outside a Byerly's in Eagan Minnesota and asked some questions about politics, and then he asked if I had any other concerns, and I bravely poured out what I thought were horrific predictions to them both. I thought at the time that it sure was funny how life works out. Here I was having these disturbing premonitions and a reporter from the correct department happened to just show up and ask me some innocent questions. Yeah! Right!
With the, oh I forgot, I also later "sensed" Moussaui was coming to Minnesota, and bravely went to my caucus that year. I shared my "prediction" with the gathered at the risk of seeming crazy. Tim Paw lenti and his wife who is a judge were there. I was quite clear that worried as I could see he was coming to Minnesota. Well, little did I know.
I guess they have reason to think I am brave. Damn, I am. They sure missed the boat on me. I could have been a real spy, instead of a target. Dummies!!!
Excellent rebuttal. You might have mentioned since when did the authorities support vigilantism.
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