None lethal does not mean none harmful.

Fry em and say good bye to em.

It was announced recently that the United States has
given permission to the US military for the use of none
lethal weapons in Iraq. (Non lethal does not mean none
harmful)

The use of these weapons in the Middle East has been
suspected for some time, but it's only now that the use
is being confirmed.

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72134-0.html?tw=wn_politics

[quote]The crowd is getting ugly. Soldiers roll up in a
Hummer. Suddenly, the whole right half of your body is
screaming in agony. You feel like you've been dipped in
molten lava. You almost faint from shock and pain, but
instead you stumble backwards -- and then start
running. To your surprise, everyone else is running
too. In a few seconds, the street is completely empty.
You've just been hit with a new nonlethal weapon that
has been certified for use in Iraq -- even though
critics argue there may be unforeseen effects.[/quote]

Many people for years have been complaining about the
use of these types of weapons in domestic situations.
If you do a search there are websites that sell
assembly kits, for lower grade versions of these
weapons and they have been available for year.

These weapons have been used to torture people in their
homes and to burn them without leaving any traces of
surface level burns. These weapons are hostile and
should be considered weapons of torture.

In the article it says that the safe use of the weapons
is 3-5 seconds.

[quote]The beam produces what experimenters call the
"Goodbye effect," or "prompt and highly motivated
escape behavior." In human tests, most subjects reached
their pain threshold within 3 seconds, and none of the
subjects could endure more than 5 seconds.[/quote]

When you are tortured with similar weapons in your home
there really is no place to run to and many can not
escape the effects of these types of harassment's in
their own homes. When they do try to go to the police
to explain that weapons causing similar pain and
torture is being used on them, they are often ridiculed
and turned away, or sent for evaluations.

Amnesty International has you will remember from my
previous postings has decided to not take a stance on
these weapons. (They have decided to focus on taser)

These are to be used safely for about 3-5 seconds for
angry crowd control. Does anyone actually believe that
these will be used for this period of time on the Iraq
population? I can tell you that these will be used for
extended periods of time because an angry crowd will
not immediately disperse, even when they feel their
skin burning on fire. When your world is upside down,
and your lives have been destroyed these weapons will
stop you only when they are used in lethal or near
lethal capacity.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1924524,00.html

For those who have experienced the torture of these
weapons, or similar weapons being used, we can attest
that they are none lethal weapons of torture and they
should not be used on human populations for crowd
control.

A person in a combat situation will be hard pressed to
control themselves and use these for the prescribed
three second capacity.

I think if you don't realise it these weapons will not
only be used in Iraq, but in future they will be used
on the United states population for crowd control as
well.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/13/air-force-chief-proposes-testing-pain-guns-on-unruly-americans/

[quote]“If we’re not willing to use it here against our
fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use
it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne. “(Because) if I
hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim
that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I
think that I would be vilified in the world
press.”[/quote]

I think this man should be commended. Not for the
suggestion, but for his willingness to be honest. These
types of weapons are being tested on the American
population. It is what many have been complaining about
for years, and now they are going to be used on the
Iraq population.

I think this is something that most people would not
and do not like for themselves. None lethal does not
mean none harmful and it's hard to predict what the
long term consequences of these weapons will be. Even
the short term affects could be potentially harmful if
abused in crowd control situations.

The information as to what those effects might however
seem to be being kept under wraps, and so we do not
have a true or a clear picture of the actual harm that
might be afflicted by these weapons. All we have are
the testimonies of people who have experienced these.

I can say that they are torturous, they burn you, but
not on the surface, the pain is all below the surface,
and it does not go away right away, these burns or
feeling of being burnt can last for days or longer. I
don't think these should be used for crowd control and
I think that we should be doing everything that we can
to get these banned before they are used on any Iraq or
American citizen for crowd control, or continued
torture.