Hal Turner vs Julian Assange

Hal Turner vs Julian Assange

Now I am hearing a lot about Julian Wikileaks and that he could not be a disinfo site, cause now he is allegedly going to face charges, but it's not necessarily true.

There was a shrill that worked for the government for years and who was on the payroll from the start, he was harassed a lot, and even went to jail, but he was a shrill the whole time.

See it's nice to think that things should be painted in black and white, and that we would know the good guys from the bad guys but we often don't. The thing to do is to start to look for identifiable patterns that help you to distinguish the one from the others.

Now I have no diffinative proof that Julian is a shrill, but I will say that he met a lot of the points patterns that point to that, even with the current arrest.

Now as many know in my research into Gang Stalking I have researched some of the extremist communities, and that is where I first heard about Hal Turner. Some for years had thought that he was a shrill, some even after the arrest, and his confession of being a government shrill still championed him.

During his time he did a lot of good, remember he was working for his assigned cause, but he was also helping set up people and give tips to the feds. So on the one hand he would hold rallies and vigils for people. Bring cases that would normally not get attention attention that they needed, for some he was seen as a leader, and a voice for his community. Other thought he was a loud mouth and a bit crazy.

What always amazes me about this type is their ability to raise funds, and have a wide array of sheeple singing their praises. There are other points that happen, but I am going to keep some of those to myself.

What is now known about Hal Turner is that he was a government informant and part of what he was hired to do was to spy on many of those in the community he claimed to represent. He seemed to be on the surface performing one function, but in the background he was performing a different function.

What people have to remember is this Hal Turner was a shrill, the handler and some in the FBI knew this, a lot of other people did not know this, and thinking that he was legitimate acted accordingly. What I believe I have discovered is that these people are often given an assignment. I don't think that they even know who each other are, but they likely figure it out in time. Each does what they are assigned to do, be it post information, push a subject into the publics interest, etc. They go about their day to day lives, and most are none the wiser as they carry out a duel agenda.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime_courts/Records_show_feds_used_ultra-right_radio_host_for_years.html

For more than five years, Hal Turner of North Bergen lived a double life.

The public knew him as an ultra-right-wing radio talk show host and Internet blogger with an audience of neo-Nazis and white supremacists attracted to his scorched-earth racism and bare-knuckles bashing of public figures. But to the FBI, and its expanding domestic counter-terror intelligence operations in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, Turner was "Valhalla" — his code name as an informant who spied on his own controversial followers.

For the record Hal Turner is now sitting and rotting in jail, but for years he worked for them faithfully, pushing the edges of what he could get away with. He had watch dog organization on his tale, which may or may not have been a part of the subterfuge, and many people really disliked him for the views he sprouted, he also caused a great deal of controversy, got a lot of media play, and the whole time he was working for them. So it's all very highly possible.

But the center of the court battle will likely be the story of Hal Turner and his FBI connections, which began in 2003 with the Newark-based Joint Terrorism Task Force, and continued on and off until this year.

Rumors of Turner's FBI work surfaced two years ago after unknown Internet hackers electronically broke into his Web site and found e-mails between Turner and an FBI agent. Turner never acknowledged his FBI role until after his arrest in June — and then with a mix of anger and chagrin.

"Imagine my surprise," he wrote in one of several letters from jail to The Record, "when agents from the very FBI that trained and paid me came to my house to arrest me."

All across the internet these people have set up little Hal Turners, they are usually the one's getting the attention, media play, and they are the ones the sheeple follow like the pied piper in many cases. Very rarely does anything get through that is really pure and clean. These fake messiahs are not all bad, they are the only way that some information seems to reach the public. I use some of their outlets when I can. I like to think some of them occasionally pull and tug at their leashes, but I think at heart most of them know who and what they serve, and thus a lot of the Internet is controlled, more than we know.

If Julian is not a shrill, then I wish him all the best, but based on a lot of things that I have seen, I am going to play it very cautious with this one and see what develops further.

Executive Order 2

Executive Order 2

Ok so I have more details of the dream, except this dream is different than the other dreams. This dream is like a recall of sorts.

Eg. In the other dreams, I am in these lame mind attics, mind stages, strangers in the dreams, and they all have these lame themes right, but this was not like those.

In this dream I am seeing the behind the scenes stuff.
Eg. I now realize that in the dream I had been walking and the person that I am walking with tells me that we have walked into a trap, but then there is nothing that we can do.

Oh and I am recalling the dream from end to start, which is weird. I don't know how long this took place over time, or how many dreams. The recall all happened now in one dream, but I think these events might have happened over a series of dreams, and I was not aware.

So in the dream there is a mention of Andrews or St. Andrews airforce base? Possibly something about a hanger I think, but not sure about the hanger.

In the dream it's not mind programing, it's spirit programing. Programing for the spirit vs programing for the mind. In the dream there is talk of giving me special K. (That's like suppose to be a drug, not the breakfast cereal.) In the dream the handler wants to use it to break the mind. Part of the programing involves violating and beating the hell out of the target. In previous dreams I have had quick flash of where someone is hitting the heck out of me, but then it's mostly covered up by the mind stage, and it's like quick flash.

In the dream there are special terms used, and different parts of the mind were created. In the other dreams I was sure not of this had happened, but clearly I was wrong. Different levels, and different words to access the various levels. The person that set this up has a special term just for them, that only they know. There are other trigger words, that others know, but his person has something special for just them.

The person who set this up is there for parts of this. This person at times seems to play a special role, not really a handler, but gives special commands to mind sections that only this person can access.

Remember this is all happening in the dream, but this dream was like a recall dream, unlike the other lame dreams, this dream had texture, persons that I know, persons that I did not know, but unlike the other dreams these people have texture and seem real in the dream.

The person who set's this up gives a command to hurt and violate the person I was captured with, and I wonder, what did this person ever do to you? The person who set this up seems to enjoy the power they seem to have in the dream.

There is talk of underground bases, in one of my other dreams not this one, there was one dream that I thought was weird, someone is experimenting on me in the dream. It's a quick flash and it does seem to be underground, unlike the other mind fluff it also had texture. In the dream I am lead to believe that his last name is mengle, but ofcourse the only one associated with that name would be long gone. The funny thing was when I looked up the wiki page, the person in my dream if I recall correctly looked like an older version of the wiki picture. (Again I am recalling a dream face, so take it for what it's worth.)

In the dream afterwards someone implies that I am being spiritually tracked. I am lead to understand that this is spiritual programing, vs mind programing I guess? The tracking implication is that no matter where I go on the dream realm or I guess it could be an astral realm, not sure, that I will be tracked. They implied it's like an implant, but a spiritual tracker not like a psychical tracker. Now remember this is all happening in the dream, but this dream was like more real.

The implication that I walked away from the dream was this. Eg. The dream implies that spiritual experimentations are happening, just like you would have these earth mind programs that are happening, but these are on an astral or spiritual plain of existence.

The thing is however the processes work the exact same way, eg. The splitting of the mind, the tracking of spiritual bodies. There was a mention of being linked into the underground bases, but why would you be linked into underground bases in spirit? That seems weird cause I didn't think that would be possible.

The feeling I get is that you can remotely program someone at subconscious or spiritual level, the same way you would do in the awake world, but it's all done while asleep. This is what I walked away from the dream thinking.

Remember this all happens in my dream. The other thing I think about in my dream is that the person who set this up, must really hate me. Naturally I know who it is, and I think this person must truly hate me, they seem to get so much pleasure from the precieved power of what is being done.

There were other things, but a lot of them are personal. I wanted to share this with you, cause it seemed really different than anything else. The other dreams are all just mind pap, but this dream was like stuff that was behind the scenes. Stuff that I was not meant to know or be aware of. Stuff I assume that the mind pap is designed to hide and cover over. It was weird cause the other dreams were nothing like this one, this one actually seemed like a real dream vs the other dreams which seem like faux dreams.

Now for those out there who do have these real life experiences be it abductions, or mind control programing, I am wondering if any of you could be experiencing this at a subconscious or dream level, vs real life waking level? Oh don't get me wrong, I do believe the government does in real life conduct such experiments, I am not doubting the validity of people who have had such experiences, I am just wondering if anyone thinks that instead of a real experience if it could have happened on a dream level, but it seemed real?

Ofcourse what if things like this really are happening and government have found ways to remotely experiment on people at a dream or spirit level and to program them at a dream level imagine how messed up that would be? You would be like MK Ultra, Monarch Programing, Manchurian Candidate and never know it. The other thing is that would dream programming affect your waking world, or just your dream world?

It's all very interesting, and I usually don't get this personal in my blogging, and I usually don't share my dreams, but I thought if anyone else out there was having similar, you could call back and share, and maybe compare notes.

For me personally I am taking these dreams with a grain of salt. I am naturally happy to have anything that seems more like my old dreams, even if this one did have the same creepy control theme to it.

(Oh one more weird thing, is that in the dream they referred to me as the benefits recipient, and I kept thinking, but I am not on benefits, it has to be a mistake. Benefits is the U.K. term for welfare, but the dream is all America based.) Weird, that was one more detail that comes out in the dream. I am going to go do some boring old surfing, and for once be glad for my waking world, cause my dream world is a bit weird right now.