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Sunday, July 26, 2009

Electronic Harassment. Enough for everyone.

I just found some really good articles about Electronic harassment and I think that they are worth having a look at.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327185.600-microwave-weapon-will-rain-pain-from-the-sky.html

[quote]THE Pentagon's enthusiasm for non-lethal crowd-control weapons appears to have stepped up a gear with its decision to develop a microwave pain-infliction system that can be fired from an aircraft.

The device is an extension of its controversial Active Denial System, which uses microwaves to heat the surface of the skin, creating a painful sensation without burning that strongly motivates the target to flee. The ADS was unveiled in 2001, but it has not been deployed owing to legal issues and safety fears.

Nevertheless, the Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate (JNLWD) in Quantico, Virginia, has now called for it to be upgraded. The US air force, whose radar technology the ADS is based on, is increasing its annual funding of the system from $2 million to $10 million.
The transmitting antenna on the current system is 2 metres across, produces a single beam of similar width and is steered mechanically, making it cumbersome. At the heart of the new weapon will be a compact airborne antenna, which will be steered electronically and be capable of generating multiple beams, each of which can be aimed while on the move.
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I wish people would read up on what happened in Iraq, where these weapons were approved for use. The dead bodies speak pretty loudly, and they point in the direction of these weapons.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/07/court-to-defendant-stop-blasting-that-mans-mind/

[quote]Late last year, James Walbert went to court, to stop his former business associate from blasting him with mind-altering electromagnetic radiation. Walbert told the Sedgwick County, Kansas panel that Jeremiah Redford threatened him with “jolts of radiation” after a disagreement over a business deal. Later, Walbert, said, he began feeling electric shock sensations, hearing electronically generated tones, and getting popping and ringing sounds in his ears. On December 30th, the court decided in Walbert’s favor, and issued a first-of-its-kind order of protection, banning Redford from using “electronic means” to further harass Walbert. No, seriously.

I recently took part in a BBC Radio 4 program, which took a light-hearted look into the “the real Manchurian Candidate” — and examined whether there is any truth in stories of mind control. It gave me a chance to talk about exotic non-lethal weapon concepts like the so-called telepathic raygun, the system which beams sound directly into your skull, and the “voice of god” talking fireball. Most of these projects are just lab experiments, or examples of Powerpoint engineering. But in some legal, policy, and business circles, electromagnetic brain assaults are being taken seriously.

Walbert’s cause is supported by Jim Guest, a Republican member of the Missouri House of Representatives. He’s working on proposed legislation to addresses electronic harassment, including a bill against the forced implantation of RFID chips.

The U.N. is also now taking the possibility of electromagnetic terrorism against people seriously. And for the first time this year’s European Symposium on Non-lethal Weapons included a session on the social implications of non-lethal weapons, with specific reference to “privacy-invasive remote interrogation and behavioral influence applications.” Those who believe they are being targeted are getting a bit of official recognition. [/quote]

Lot's of good stuff in this article. If Walbert is a real target, then good for him. Even if he is not, then it's still exposure and so good for us.

The UN is starting to acknowledge this, great. I think, but since they were probably aware of it, and did nothing and let this be used in Iraq I am not sure what to think. Still it's more exposure and that is good.

A few years ago, I could not even get a pledge from Amnesty International about Electronic Weapons, they were busy working on tasers at the time. Times change.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/07/the-microwave-s/

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The Microwave Scream Inside Your Skull Hyper_microwave_22_gr The U.S. military bankrolled early development of a non-lethal microwave weapon that creates sound inside your head. But in the end, the gadget may be just as likely to wind up in shopping malls as on battlefields, as I report in New Scientist. The project is known as MEDUSA – a contrived acronym for Mob Excess Deterrent Using Silent Audio. And it should not be confused with the Long Range Acoustic Device and similar gadgets which simply project sound. This one uses the so-called "microwave auditory effect": a beam of microwaves is turned into sound by the interaction with your head. Nobody else can hear it unless they are in the beam as well. The effect has long been a laboratory curiosity, with no application. But, over the years, the military has been intrigued. The idea (dubbed "the telepathic ray gun") was mentioned in a 1998 US Army study, which turned up in a recent Freedom of Information Act document dump. Five years later, the Navy decided to put some R&D dollars into the project. Now, as I note on the New Scientist website, Dr. Lev Sadovnik of the Sierra Nevada Corporation has provided more details. [/quote]

Wow remember trying to explain this stuff to others, that some people had this happening. For me I first had to believe that this was happening to people. The people saying that this was happening, to me seemed credible and I did not believe them to be crazy, and when I did the research on this. I felt that they were indeed telling the truth in many cases.

Sometimes people hearing things might be crazy, hearing things from other locations, fillings in teeth, we understand so little about higher spiritual realms, and in some cases, the government is just driving them crazy, or agents of the state.


http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/02/report-nonletha/

[quote]Report: Nonlethal Weapons Could Target Brain, Mimic Schizophrenia
Mind_control Of all the crazy, bizarre less-lethal weapons that have been proposed, the use of microwaves to target the human mind remains the most disturbing. The question has always been: is this anything more than urban myth? We may not have the final answer to this question, but a newly declassified Pentagon report, Bioeffects of Selected Non-Lethal Weapons , obtained by a private citizen under the Freedom of Information Act, provides some fascinating tidbits on a variety of exotic weapons ideas.

Among those discussed are weapons that could disrupt the brain, as well as my longtime obsession, the "Voice of God" device, which creates voices in people’s heads. As the report notes, "Application of the microwave hearing technology could facilitate a private message transmission. It may be useful to provide a disruptive condition to a person not aware of the technology. Not only might it be disruptive to the sense of hearing, it could be psychologically devastating if one suddenly heard ‘voices within one’s head.’"
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Well since the idea is to make people look crazy, I think that this goes without saying.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/08/meet-the-medusa/

[quote] Meet the MEDUSA Ray Gun Are you disillusioned with Ionatron and all those other far-fetched weapons that just don’t seem to go anywhere? Are you looking for a new ray gun that will blast missiles out of the air? Well, earlier this week I heard from Dr. Robert Adams, CEO Optima Technology Group, which produces the MEDUSA Mobile Energy Device. Dr. Adams is angry because some time back, he wrote to Ionatron offering to cooperate: "Like your company, we own patented DE technology that works. We further feel that your company’s position in Directed Energy Weapons as well as your stock price would drastically improve by acquiring and/or taking the exclusive rights through a partnership with our company of our patented technology," he wrote. Ionatron gave him the brushoff. What do I think of MEDUSA? One website describes the company’s founders as consisting of an "ex-US Navy seal, the man who invented holographic storage, a games software programmer and a matter/anti-matter ray-gun which, had it been in existence on September 11, might have prevented at least some of the devastation ………." Apparently, inspiration for MEDUSA came to its inventor from a combination of crop circles and an article in Aviation Week & Space Technology (which, I swear, is probably where most weapons ideas come from).
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Tax dollars hard at work to enslave you better.

Now when you finally wake up and get angry and try to do something about it, please keep in mind all the potential fun things that state has in store just waiting for the sheeple.

Remember this is just the stuff that we know about, many of these were being developed years ago, and we are just hearing about it now. Everything old is new again. Yeah.

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Tuesday, July 07, 2009

MJ makes sainthood.

What a crock. Not that Michael Jackson made sainthood, but the fact that the world is as hypocritical as you can get. I think it's finally gotten to me, on an elemental level.

I just can't take the world that seriously anymore. One person on one of these forums was saying how hypocritical it all was. I think they said something along the line of Jesus when he want into Jerusalem, he had people spreading palm leaves and worshiping him, and many of those same people a few days later were crucifying him, or standing there while he was crucified.

The person on that forum, went on to say that a few days before his death, many people did not want to touch Micheal Jackson with a 10 foot pole. They were still making jokes about him being a pedophile, and most would not even give him the time of day, and suddenly he dies and it's all different.

Well not to worry, right after dying it was sort of the same for Jesus. I was learning about some of the stuff that Michael had gone through. Do you know that he felt that there was a conspiracy against him? I read that he paid to have a voodoo witch doctor curse some people. It's hard for me to believe that someone of his caliber could be so demonized by this world, but he was, and the chances are good that he was not guilty.

Don't get me wrong, some really did believe that he had harmed children. I had always left that at undecided, but I felt that he had not. However I always gave him the benefit of the doubt. I did think however it was a good idea that he stopped hanging around kids that were not his, not because he was not a good person, but because when you are good, it's easy for the world to take advantage.

His situation, and what a I found out, really solidified some things for me. Not that I don't see what the world is capable of on a daily basis, but knowing what the world could and did do to someone like him, kinda really put's things in perspective for me.

The world is a funny place, I think I will leave it at that. They demoralize and crucify that which is not there's. They don't understand someone with a child like mentally, and because most of the world is corrupted, they assume that everyone else must be the same thing. I have not found anything that would lead me to believe that he was a pedophile. Most of what I read was rumours, gossip, people taking events that happened on the surface and not looking at the bigger story, the articles that I read about his accusers lead me to believe that it was not true, and extortion played a great role in the first case, and and the secondary case was also someone trying to extort money.

MJ was as big as you could get in this world, well close enough, and yet the world was able to leave him, in poverty at times, hopeless, depressed, and just broken. I am not going to pretend to be a huge Michael Jackson fan. I liked his music, I thought he was a great artist, but that's about it. What made me go looking for truth after his death was a need to know the truth.
For me I feel how I felt before, but more so. I don't think he was what the world said about him. I am still open to hearing evidence if there is such out there, but for me, what I read leads me to believe very strongly that he might have been set up, and there might have been a conspiracy initially for money, and then other factors took over, or if you read the transcripts, there might have been other factors from the get go, and for once, I just don't want to know.

What I do know about his life after the accusations, is pretty sad. What I learnt about what the world did to him, on a spiritual, financial and emotional level is more than I needed or wanted to know. For once I think this world has truly been put into perspective for me.

The world vs Jesus. Nicknamed king of the Jews, praised by some, but crucified by many others. Crucified and died, and then worsphipped after death.

Michael Jackson vs the world. MJ also nicknamed king of pop. Crucified and demonized, by the world for a large part of his later life. Now dead, yet worshipped after death.

It's like the world just can not appreciate the good when it's given it, it always has to destroy that which is not like it, or that which it does not understand.

The world is a funny, and hypocritical place.

Anyways, I truly hope that Michael can finally rest in peace. I hope his soul has found some kind of better harbour. I hope.

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Saturday, July 04, 2009

Psi Ops

As mentioned before the police sometime use psychics in their investigations.

www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article1866075.ece

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“Some of the information is about precise location or co-ordinates and that allows us to go to the place and we will check it,” he said. “Just a few days ago we got one address near Lagos [about five miles from Praia da Luz] but it didn't amount to anything.”
Mr Sousa said he did not believe they had heard from Madeleine's abductor: “If it was a message from the kidnapper, it will offer enough clues to help us to go to the right place.”
He said it was not unusual to investigate the claims of clairvoyants but added it was only one line of investigation.

“In this case the amount of information we have received is huge," he said. “Any information that comes to us, if there is enough to follow, we will check.”

It is not known if a “vision” was the source of the information which led to Portuguese detectives asking British police to raid a London home where they believed Madeleine might have been kept.
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I have also mentioned that they have used remote viewers when looking for hostages, and other events.

http://www.remoteviewinglight.com/html/buchanan-seventh-sense.html

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Book Description of "The Seventh Sense: The Secrets of Remote Viewing as Told by a Psychic Spy for the U.S. Military", by Lyn Buchanan:For the past thirty years, the United States government has secretly trained a select corps of military personnel in the art of "remote viewing" -- the psychic ability to perceive the thoughts and experiences of others through the power of the human mind...

Now, for the first time, Lyn Buchanan -- a world-renowned expert on remote viewing and its potential -- tells the complete, candid story of his experiences. Assigned for nearly a decade to a clandestine U.S. Army intelligence group, Buchanan trained military personnel who utilized their inherent psychic abilities as a data-collection tool during the Iran hostage crisis, the Chernobyl disaster, and the Gulf War.

In this incredible account, Buchanan tells how he was selected for his unique psychic abilities, and how he was transformed from an ordinary soldier into one of our nation's leading psychic spies. Working on top-secret government and military projects using "mental espionage" created permanent, life-altering changes within Buchanan. Now, after many years of analysis and interpretation, he reveals the techniques and mental exercises used to train remote viewers, and demonstrates that each of us carries a dormant psychic ability that we can explore and use ourselves.

For anyone interested in a hard, scientific look at the reality of psychic covert operations in the world today, or anyone who has ever wondered if he or she could have the inherent skills to become a remote viewer, this fascinating chronicle of life as a psychic spy will reveal the answers.
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There is a lot going on that people are not aware of, or just refuse to accept. I think that's the idea however. I was the same way, but after doing some research, well I am a believer.

http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-06/mind-reading-tech-way

[quote] Mind-Reading Tech May Not Be Far OffAt the World Science Festival this week, indications that brain scanners may soon uncover your private thoughtsBy Brooke Borel Posted 06.12.2009 at 5:15 pm

Neuroscientists are already able to read some basic thoughts, like whether an individual test subject is looking at a picture of a cat or an image with a specific left or right orientation. They can even read pictures that you're simply imagining in your mind's eye. Even leaders in the field are shocked by how far we've come in our ability to peer into people's minds. Will brain scans of the future be able to tell if a person is lying or telling the truth? Suggest whether a consumer wants to buy a car? Reveal our secret likes and dislikes, or our hidden prejudices? While we aren't there yet, these possibilities have dramatic social, legal and ethical implications.[/quote]

These are artificial means of looking into the mind. What I have been researching are people who would have more natual abilities to reach into the mind and read the private thoughts of others. The ultimate way to violate someone, going into their minds and sharing their private dreams, thoughts, hopes, desires with others. The Tom Cruise movie minority report is in many ways not far off.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2008/09/precrime-detector-is-showing-p.html

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September 23, 2008 1:28 PM'Pre-crime' detector shows promiseFASTLast year, New Scientist revealed that the US Department of Homeland Security is developing a system designed to detect "hostile thoughts" in people walking through border posts, airports and public places. The DHS says recent tests prove it works.

Project Hostile Intent as it was called aimed to help security staff choose who to pull over for a gently probing interview - or more.

ommentators slated the idea that sensors could spot people up to no good from their pulse rate, breathing, skin temperature, or fleeting facial expressions. One likened it to the "pre-crime" units that predict criminal behaviour in the movie Minority Report.

FAST1.jpgHowever, last week, the DHS science unit gave an update on the project, now dubbed the less-hostile-sounding Future Attribute Screening Technologies (FAST) programme. And, if DHS claims are to be believed, the research appears to be getting somewhere
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What I am also saying is that they are now actively using also using readers. Mind readers in the course of their investigations.

What to look for. People who might not have fit in childhood. People who are emotional spazes, not overtly, but may be prone to outbursts. Many might seem nice or friendly on the inside, but might be emotional, and mental manipulators. They are feeders. Mind reading isn't just about reading people's thoughts, it's violating them and feeding that information back to others.

It's a psychic violation, but it's also a bit of a feed. The way some people feed off the energy of others, the readers feed in a similar manner on the thoughts of others. It makes them in many cases feel superior, a secret that others don't know about, or a secret to be used to win friends, and impress others.

In a psi/psy op, these are some of the roles you might expect to find. They may not always be present, but this is a likely senario. These roles have been observed outside of the workplace and in the targets community as well.

Roles
Conductor- (One who coordinates the actions and the players in the environment. Also known as the controller.)
Observers- (People who observe what is happening and report back.
Mind Readers-(When external observations just are not good enough. These will be used to read and report back the targets thoughts and reactions)
Security-(Someone with a security background, anywhere from Judo lessons, to security, etc.)
The persons who will deliver the harassment or sorry the stimuli in the targets environment, whatever that might be. This might be other co-workers, or players specifically hired for the role.


To help you better understand this I will give you a few scenarios.

Scenario one.

Ash has been directed to play the role of conductor.
The stimuli will be delivered by Razon.
The reader will be Ivanna.
Observer will be Khalisha

The circus performers will likely be a part of the targeted individuals training class if there is a training class in session. The reader will try to make friends with the target, because a link has to be established. The conductor get's the participants into their roles.

If it's a situation where there are names on the desk, they manipulate the seating arrangements to suit the situation.

In the above scenario, you would have Razon and others deliver a stimuli, the target would be observed by Khalisha and others, and the conductor ash would tell everyone what to do. The reader Ivanna would have a link to the target, and observer how the target response to the stimulus. So a variety of skits will be run throughout the day, trying to keep the target engaged. While the observers, and the reader watch, record, how the target responds to each stimuli.
The experiment will continue as long as the subject is in the environment. The idea is to find what's working, and ofcourse to try to eliminate the target, by any means necessary from the workplace environment. Again the main players will if possible try to gain access to the target, and befriend the target, depending on the assigned roles.

They will also see and observe if the target has any hostility towards the participant who is delivering the stimuli.

The target is not to realise that such a game is being played, and thus the target is aware of what is happening, but not the roles being carried out, the observations being made, and recorded. Ofcourse much like the couple that was vindicated by having their neighbour who harassed them by singing the Addams family song daily, a target will also be very aware, even hyper aware if there are skits being run, or if they are being exposed to a stimuli, which they have been negatively sensitised to.

The players around may not be aware of this, but they carry out their assigned roles.

Scenario 2

Shylo might be hired for security due to his judo expertise.

Kevi might be hired for her "special abilities".

Depending on the environments, players and roles might be added later on. Eg. If it's a workplace that is doing a lot of hiring, then the players might be hired at once. If it's not a work environment that is doing a lot of hiring, the additional players might have to be hired after.
Again the players would be hired to observe, befriend, find out information on, and watch and listen what happens in the environment. Readers appear to be harmless on the outside, giving off an air of friendliness, but the environments that create such natural abilities, in many cases will show people who were always just on the outside, who needed to develop the special skill to find out what people were thinking to fit in better. It's a manipulative, and deceitful role if it is being done for nefarious purposes. It's also a parasitic and feeding role. Host and parasite. The host often unaware that their very private thoughts, wishes, hopes, dreams are being violated in such a manner.

Again the reader depending on the range, will be in a sitting position as close to the target as needed. Security will also be nearby, should the target flip out. We know how wrong these little psi/psy ops can go. Just like with the first scenario, if a participant has not been hired to deliver the stimuli, then participants in the environment will be told and directed what to do, and will be asked to observer the reaction of the subject.

The reader will be doing the same, but on a very different level. The drama, I mean psi/psy ops begins. It will again keep going with different dramas and skits being introduced into the environment, until the target wigs out, or a reason is found to get rid of the target. If no reason is found, more might be introduced into the environment. The idea is to get the target upset, to quit, to get fired, to have a bad reaction, something to frame the target, to get rid of the target, even if that is not what the players have been overtly told they are doing that is the goal.

Scenario three.

Alexia-The conductor
Sam- Will delver the stimuli
Ronette- Will be security
You have the observers
Fawn- will be the reader

The target will again be placed strategically around the players with the conductor being in a position to direct the person delivering the stimuli. Plus able to co-ordinate the other. The observers will be placed close enough to observe what is happening.

Once again the co-workers will be directed to carry out skits, the players will observe the reaction of the target. The reader depending on range will be asked to be near the target. Security in a similar strategic position. The person who is to deliver the stimuli is usually directly behind the target, across from, or directly in front of the target situation and seating allowed.
Again the target is not to be aware that this is the scenario, or that these skits are deliberately being carried out. The co-workers are told what to do, again often not realising that they are pawns in a pretty unkind psi/psy op. They carry out a stimuli, and then observe the target reaction.

Some workplace environments will foster false reports more than others, these people in many cases will feed the hysteria that is not there, and see things that re not there, based on what they have been told, and is that not just human nature? Remember they are independent agents and they report what they see fit.

I recently reported a story about a guy who back in school we had been told was a pervert in one of my classes when I was back in school. Because of what we had been told, people were always seeing things that were not really there, comments would be taken out of context, and many of the girls thereafter were uncomfortable around him, because of what I now believe was a blatant lie. His life was made hell because of it, but no one believed they were doing anything wrong at the time. He was made out to be an unclean person, and other things, again always the same sources feeding the hate, but we never as a group saw it that way. Now years later on the other side of the fence, I get what was being done, and the behind the scenes that were being manipulated.

So targets it's again very possible that these hateful co-workers, neighbours, etc, are also being manipulated in a similar manner, and because HR or managers, and others in authority are directing them about what to do, say, act, ect, they will go along with it in many cases without question.

So anyways in scenario three, the same actions would be carried out. The target will be strategically placed near the reader, they will be placed in front of, behind, or beside, the person to carry out the stimuli, security will be nearby, and the observers will be all over, ready and waiting for the testimonies to begin. Because such an environment is more then likely to create paranoia amongst people that might not be that bright to begin with, and the games (psi/psy op) are allowed to continue consistently, the fishing expedition is often likely to eventually find something to go fishing with, be it real or imagined.

One thing you can do, is if you are aware of these skits in your life, you might try to find ways of cluing in others, or better yet, see if you or someone around you can take note of what is happening. The more aware people are of what is happening, the better chance they stand of fighting it.

Just being aware that these people are being used might help gain an advantage for many in similar situations.

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Thursday, July 02, 2009

A baiting we will go.

As a target I get to see the business end of things, and it does not make me hopeful for humans, but it's a good study none the less.

I see how truly controlled people are, more importantly I see a system where many do not even question that control. I see people getting used all the time. From the co-workers who now babysit my route to and from work.

What the informant force has been doing is they have been using positive identifications. This means they are now trying to have someone who I have had contact with before positively identify me, so I now constantly run into people at every location that I know. I think in many regards this method works better than others, because at least you can say yes the target was on the train, etc vs what I have personally witnessed which is them not know who is who vs what is what. I also recently saw a informant that was on the same bus, get followed. The informant gave the signals, but since the target was not readily visible, they just ignored the informant, and followed the informant off the bus. Still it's an improvement, but not one that I will be going along with.

I believe if they had used this method in the first place there would have been way less erroneous reports, however after years of the garbage, I have no intention of assisting with this venture. I keep finding fun ways around it.

This is one more reason that it's easy to associate with informants, but it's hard to form any real associations, because in an informant society motive must always be questioned. I get them all the time fishing for details of a personal nature. Yes normal people do this, but when you are aware of a secondary purpose in mind, then it's impossible to take them seriously.

What I do now is report any incidents so that I can get my own words in, I find that this is more balanced, since informants can not in many cases be trusted to tell the truth.

In Stasi Germany, it was friends, family, lovers, co-workers, neighbours that betrayed people.
Today I had an informant wheel over me quite deliberately. I firmly but politely advised and requested that the informant be more careful in future. Even though it was fully done deliberately, you want to be careful of accusing them, as they are very found of accusing targets of being paranoid. It's part of the baiting process.

I truly believe that many of these people don't care about the children in their care, they often use them for a variety of purposes. Similar to the way they use their dogs. Part of the dog and pony show.

I think children have more value than that, but very little surprises me now. Two examples.
The pot shots that we have to put up with. Now the odd time the informants are instructed to get up close and personal and to try to cause the target problems.

Today I had an informant use it's own child to cause trouble. I really find that some these people have no integrity whatsoever. I don't believe that they care about their children. Just like the way they get puppies, and dogs, I do think that some have children just to make it easier for them to be a part of this system.

I have now had numerous occasions where an informant was so busy watching me, that they literally endangered their children. It really makes me sad, but I am not surprised.
I remember the one time that a young mother was with her friend, and her children were with her, she was so busy watching me, that she missed the fact that her child was climbing on an object, and was about to get impaled. I drew her attention to this fact, and she seemed to muster up some motherly instinct and was able to go and retrieve her child. She could pay attention to what I was doing, but not to the immediate danger her child had placed herself in. Priorities are frightening.

Many of them take the informant game so seriously that they forget anything else. Another time I had one woman send her young son off to sit by himself at the back of the bus, while she stayed at the doors in the middle to watch me, her back was turned so she could not see the child, and could not have been aware of what was happening.

Anything could have been happening to the child, there are strangers who are not above physically reaching out and grabbing a child on a public bus, yet here she was so intense on me, that her child could have been in danger. I was seriously wondering if I got off the bus there and then if she would follow me, or take the time to remember that she has a child, but then they do what they are told, so provided that she was not instructed to do so, I assume she would have stayed on the bus. The loyalty was once again to the state.

Both of the women in the above scenarios were Asian decent, but I do not know if they were from outside of the country. I am pointing this out, because I do know that these types of systems have been very popular in communist countries and that it's like second nature to some people. The point is, I don't think that many of them have their priorities in tack, and they use their children in many cases, in very wrong ways.

Other targets have reported skits where children are paraded around in inappropriate outfits. Eg. Female children are placed in inappropriate situations, or outfits, in order to help make someone look like a pedophile. Other have reported where children are being left or paraded as bait by these people. It's disgusting.

Today was one of those days where the less snitches the better. That's a rule everyday. However after this informant wheeled over me, with her child, I really thought about the other stories of the things they do, and how they use their children and I was so disgusted by some of the things I have heard that they have done. Anyways once home, I let all my disgust out. My rule of thumb is if you want to vent in your own home, and others wish to listen, too bad.
The thing is lately I realise that the less I have to do with them, the better I feel. I have really been feeling very happy lately, and I think that is because I am getting a lot of negatives out of my life and it feels really good.

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Are informants stupid?

what I have learnt from the extremist sites.

Try your best not to generalize. What get's me most when I am on the extremist sites is that there is a lot of generalization. These sites tend to generalize groups of people and that is just not the thing to do.

I can however see that if you have too many negative experiences with too many people of a specific group that you might tend to have a general negative attitude towards that group.
I find that I tend to do this with the informants. I really try to avoid this when I can. Though a majority of them are parasitic bottom feeders, there are some, the odd few that are not stupid, that are helpful, that have retained their humanity, that are not going along with this stupidty, and who are equally looking for a way out. I am not including those people in this posting.
Everyone is different.

Many of them are just what they seem to be. Just like in East Germany where they baited the Jews, or the south where they baited the blacks, many of them are the same things. They are not happy or fulfilled unless they are getting targets to notice them, or doing something to be in conflict with targets.

I still believe the primary thing to do in most cases is to ignore them. Lately I am honestly more interested in the flowers, the trees, the dirt under my feet, etc, more so than I am interested in them. I am happier, I think I finally came to the realization, that it's just not worth it.
For me personally, there is little or no merit with interacting with the majority of people that have chosen to be a part of a system that is corrupt. The vast majority of these people are at the heart of what is driving this system. If it was not working for them, they would change it. However I believe that this system does work for the vast majority of them.

I believe many people unfortunately are base at heart, and this attracts the worst sort of people, and the worst sort of vermin. It's a sad truth. Most people probable feel they are part of something wonderful, if you will recall, the Stasi were the same, and the Nazi were the same.
What is the difference between these people and the Nazi? The world eventually recognized the Nazi's for what they were, I believe it will be a bit longer before these people are recognised as the same thing. Right now I believe the vast majority, are still in the we are right stage.
For me personally limiting my interaction with the vast majority works. In my years of mobbing, Gang Stalking, Cointelpro, I have not found that it's often in my best interest to interact with them. I generally avoid the vast majority of them when I can. They generally do not seem to understand this. I don't want anything to do with the vast majority of them, they are not my type of people, we have nothing in common, and it's not in my best interest to interact with them. It's nothing personal.

There are many informants that I like, that I still like interacting with. They are just very few and far between. No I don't believe that they are all stupid, but much like the rest of the society, the system that they subscribe to is corrupt, and thus they are corrupt by being a part of it. Willingly or unwillingly.

I am going to try to give some examples of this.

I once worked with a girl let's call her J. J was being harassed very badly by Steven a manager at one of the jobs where we worked. She use to come to me and complain about what he was doing. In my opinion he was very badly harassing and bullying her. She was a shy reserved creature and unfortunately drew Steven's harassment.

Even though I was being mobbed, I helped to shield her the best way that I could. I even gave her the information that she needed to get away from him. At the time he was her manager. She did not want to go to HR, because everyone knew that going to HR only made things worst. (I still tried to work through the HR process, but I agree that the majority of times when a manager is involved, HR does not help and is not helpful.)

She was stressed everyday and worried constantly, she just wanted to get off of his team. I found a way that she could do so without having to go to HR, it worked and eventually she got off his team.

During this time, we had become quite friendly, because I felt protective of her. Anyways one day she stopped talking to me, and became very unfriendly, not just unfriendly, but rude, and she also got several of her people, from her culture to be rude as well. I could not understand what was wrong with this girl. I eventually found out that I had wished her good health in German, and English not being her first language, she had misunderstood what I had said, and thought that I had insulted her.

A simple error, which could have been fixed, by asking me what I had said, or to explain it. No. So in essence, what she had done was advised people that I had reacted in a negative manner to her "stimuli" and insulted her. I would never have guessed at this, because it was just not the case.

Do I believe that she misunderstood what was said, yes. Do I believe she did so intentionally? NO in this case I do not. However it does not change the fact that because of the stupidity of this informant system, and the stupidity of human nature she saw what was not there. The problem is that if you tell people that someone is XYz they will not only see XYZ in many cases, but they will also add ABC.

Another example of this system at work. When I was at school we had what I now recognize to be informants. They were always signalling, I do recall this, but I had no idea why at the time. Anyways this person and her friends came and told a group of us, that this male in our class had been self pleasuring himself in class. Her two male friends confirmed this information, by agreeing with her. Thus the group without questioning them, accepted there story. She said he was a pervert and a variety of other things.

Naturally people were disgusted and did not wish to be around this person. We believed them. He was avoided after this by the class, because of what this girl had said. He missed a lot of school and eventually did not come back the next term.

In the middle of this, I could not keep up ignoring him. No matter what his so called crime, he had not killed anyone, but none the less he was treated as a leaper, and though I did not see it at the time. I believe this is what was ongoing in his life. I also believe that what the class was told was a lie, by this group of informants. He was an ethnic minority, and I do believe the goal was to get him to drop out of the class.

Because of what this girl told the others, many of the other girls in the class avoided him, the guys would not befriend him, but I eventually gave him notes, and stopped avoiding him. This interestingly enough made me enemies with the person who had started the rumours. I had been a thorn in the side of what was probably a Gang Stalking attempt in his life, but for me it was just being nice to another human being, that in my opinion there was no reason to be cruel to, and certainly not for such an extended period of time, or to the lengths that they were going to.

Did I realise that I was doing anything wrong, or being manipulated? No I did not, but I understood how to be human, and something within told me that what was ongoing was wrong. Some of the informants in this system will have that capacity, the vast majority will not. Even if they have the impulse that something is wrong, many do not have the independence to stop what is happening, or confront it.

For me a lot of things are trial and error. After years of dealing with them, for me personally, I don't want anything to do with the vast majority of them. The interactions do not enhance my life most times, I have watched the vast majority, and they like this system, it works for them. They like the snitching friends network, and many of them would be lost without it. It's their source of information, let's them know what's happening, and they feed off of it.
They feed off of having confrontations with targets the same way the Nazi's feed off of having confrontations with Jews, and congratulated themselves about it. It's the same things, they are the same level of baseness. The KKK did the same thing with blacks. Piss them off, get them to react, it's the same thing.

Where the last two groups were seen in a negative light, the members of this cult of informants, see themselves, and their actions in a very positive light. A vast majority of them, act in the same mindless fashion, one right after the other.

For me after years of being around them. My recommendation is to ignore them. The vast majority of times, they are not worth it. They want someone they can play games with that will respond to them. The "look at me, look at me, I am something special." The vast majority of times, I literally do not pay attention to them, anymore. If like the Nazi's or the KKK, they interact with me in such a way that they cross the line, I let them know it. Because if you let them cross the line a little, they will cross the line a lot. They must be kept in their place. This is what they try to do with us, and we must do the same with them.

Again, I do not mean to generalise. I hate that, and I try to avoid it when I can. They are not all like that, but too many are. The contempt has been earned.

This system is not sophisticated, many of them do not understand why targets don't want anything to do with them. Targets see the world in a very different way. I am often grateful for this experience, because it really is something I could only have learnt by experiencing. My whole life, I wondered how Nazi Germany happened, how did normal people go along with it? There was no reference source that had the material that I needed. Only the human experience could have given me what I needed.

As such I have been blessed, to understand how base human nature can get, how deprived, how people that start out decent can become corrupt. How a system of corruption can be made to function. I do believe such systems will eventually do themselves in, but in the meantime, it's an amazing study. I would choose no other side to be on.

I might dislike stupid people around me at times, but it's a great learning experience, how they function, operate, the types involved. You could not pay for such, I know most targets will not agree with me, but when we can let go of the targeting aspect, and just look at the social psychological aspect, they are an interesting study.

Anyways I had one actually try to cross the line today, and it had to be confront and politely advised, to not cross the line. Much like the Nazi, they seemed delighted, oh my gosh, nothing else has been working, no other stimuli, we finally have something. Yes sadly I am their world, but they are not my world. Even a very broken and corrupt clock can get the time right at least twice a day. The same with this broken and corrupt system.

I hate the targeting, but when I think about what these people have become, I will take this side of the coin. I don't like it, it's not always my favorite, but I thank God everyday, that I am on this side of the coin. I believe we spiritually choose things, and I do believe on some level, I choose this side of the coin, and this path, because I would not want to be on the other side of the coin.
I have no desire most times or care, what the snitching network is up to, I care not for their stupid system, which is corrupted, and being a parasite who's only job is to spy on others, or bait them, like the Nazi's did the Jews, is just not my cup of tea.

Targets this is not a great place that we are in, I know that most of us hate it on a daily basis, but when I really look at who and what these people are, and the things they do, my life is not that bad. That's one of the reasons I have been happier lately. We are blessed that we ended up on this side of the coin. No I don't like the job loss, baiting, stupidity, evil, corruption, petty, amebic parasites that we attract, but can you imagine being one? Most of us can not. So though it take a lot of efforts, realise that our glass is still half full, we have retained our humanity, and as long as we do that, we are doing better than the vast majority of them.

As for me, I have been happy, I am going to continue to be so. Avoiding them and ignoring them has worked for me. I finally came to the stage where I do realise the vast majority are just not worth it. Again, I am not generalizing. There is good and bad everywhere. There always will be. Everyday we remember that, and maintain our humanity is a victory. These creature are petty, and irritating a target is all that they have going on in their lives most days, think of the efforts that are expanded for targets? We have life, and they do not, in many cases, they are dead, and empty on the inside, and they often do not like to have that truth mirrored back about themselves, but it's true in many cases.

I could go on, but targets, be thankful that we are where we are, everyday that I am around them, or encounter more of their stupidity, it leaves me grateful. You don't want to become what they are. Being a target is not great, but I honestly believe that what the vast majority of them are is something worst.

Keep that in mind, as you go out amongst them, and the best recommendation I can give, is truly to ignore them, they really do just crave the attention, and it's what they feed off of, they are parasitic in nature. The vast majority, not all. I don't think I have had to confront one too directly prior to today, and if you must interact with them, be polite, use appropriate language, and leave it short and sweet. Parasites in many cases probably have far more potential, and intelligence than the vast majority of informants in this system. They want you in the dirt with them, try your best not to be there.

There is good and bad everywhere, try to not generalize. So are informants stupid? Sure some are stupid, they always were and always will be. Some are bright and intelligent, but this system does not cater to the bright or the intelligent, most times it caters to the petty, and corrupt. They are always looking for a reason to hate, it's what fuels them, nothing else does. It's a system that has not changed since Jesus' time. It's a system that will hate one minute and praise the next, it's a bi-polar system, and the people within that system are equally the same.

I find in a majority of cases, they hate without reason, they act without reason, and they feed off of each other. They do what the other tells them to do, independent thought is not something that this system fosters. Yet good still functions below the mire. Lately I focus on the good.

Unfortunately if you look for stupid you will find stupid, even when you don't look for stupid, you will still find it. I have stopped looking for stupid, petty and corrupt. This however does not mean that stupid, petty and corrupt will not find it's way into my realm, but limit your changes.

Are they all stupid, no, but enough are where I have doubts if this society will survive. Much like the movie apocalypto, such societies, eat themselves from the inside out, and when the time comes, they destruct from the inside out, I believe these societies are entering such a stage, and it's sad, because from the outside, they look very good, but as one who has witnessed the corruption, I believe these societies are in a problematic state, and will likely create their own downfall, due to the types of people these types of societies eventually create, which is sad.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm

"Dr. Andrew M. Lobaczewski. Political Ponerology: The science on the Nature of Evil."
[quote]Pathocracy is a disease of great social movements followed by entire societies, nations, and empires. In the course of human history, it has affected social, political, and religious movements as well as the accompanying ideologies… and turned them into caricatures of themselves…. This occurred as a result of the … participation of pathological agents in a pathodynamically similar process. That explains why all the pathocracies of the world are, and have been, so similar in their essential properties.

…Identifying these phenomena through history and properly qualifying them according to their true nature and contents - not according to the ideology in question, which succumbed to the process of caricaturization - is a job for historians. […]

The actions of [pathocracy] affect an entire society, starting with the leaders and infiltrating every town, business, and institution. The pathological social structure gradually covers the entire country creating a “new class” within that nation. This privileged class [of pathocrats] feels permanently threatened by the “others”, i.e. by the majority of normal people. Neither do the pathocrats entertain any illusions about their personal fate should there be a return to the system of normal man. [Andrew M. Lobaczewski Political Ponerology: A science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes] [/quote]

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