It's in their nature

The Scorpion and the Frog

One day, a scorpion looked around at the mountain where he lived and decided that he wanted a change. So he set out on a journey through the forests and hills. He climbed over rocks and under vines and kept going until he reached a river.

The river was wide and swift, and the scorpion stopped to reconsider the situation. He couldn't see any way across. So he ran upriver and then checked downriver, all the while thinking that he might have to turn back.

Suddenly, he saw a frog sitting in the rushes by the bank of the stream on the other side of the river. He decided to ask the frog for help getting across the stream.

"Hellooo Mr. Frog!" called the scorpion across the water, "Would you be so kind as to give me a ride on your back across the river?"

"Well now, Mr. Scorpion! How do I know that if I try to help you, you wont try to kill me?" asked the frog hesitantly.

"Because," the scorpion replied, "If I try to kill you, then I would die too, for you see I cannot swim!"

Now this seemed to make sense to the frog. But he asked. "What about when I get close to the bank? You could still try to kill me and get back to the shore!"

"This is true," agreed the scorpion, "But then I wouldn't be able to get to the other side of the river!"

"Alright then...how do I know you wont just wait till we get to the other side and THEN kill me?" said the frog.

"Ahh...," crooned the scorpion, "Because you see, once you've taken me to the other side of this river, I will be so grateful for your help, that it would hardly be fair to reward you with death, now would it?!"

So the frog agreed to take the scorpion across the river. He swam over to the bank and settled himself near the mud to pick up his passenger. The scorpion crawled onto the frog's back, his sharp claws prickling into the frog's soft hide, and the frog slid into the river. The muddy water swirled around them, but the frog stayed near the surface so the scorpion would not drown. He kicked strongly through the first half of the stream, his flippers paddling wildly against the current.

Halfway across the river, the frog suddenly felt a sharp sting in his back and, out of the corner of his eye, saw the scorpion remove his stinger from the frog's back. A deadening numbness began to creep into his limbs.

"You fool!" croaked the frog, "Now we shall both die! Why on earth did you do that?"

The scorpion shrugged, and did a little jig on the drownings frog's back.

"I could not help myself. It is my nature."

Then they both sank into the muddy waters of the swiftly flowing river.

After dealing with citizen informants and workplace mobbing and Gang Stalking over the last several years, this is the only conclusion that I can come to. It's in their nature.

Before I go further, I would like to add, this is not the method of all informants, but it's the method of too many. There are citizen informants that don't take joy in what's happening with this system. Those who have been kind and helpful. Those who have decency left. Those that shared what they could. For that nature I am, have been, and will continue to be truly grateful. For the rest this is what I think.


Telling lies. It's in their nature.

Setting People up. It's in their nature.

Seeing the bad in others, but never in this system or in themselves. It's in their nature.

Destroying people's lives. It's in their nature.

Parasitically feeding off of the lives of others. It's in their nature.


Stirring up trouble. It's in their nature.


People tend to think of Targets as reserved or anti-social, but most targets are far from it. After years of bad advise, bad information, situation after situation, and person after person that we could not trust, many targets have learnt. Being cautious has become a part of our nature. Most targets are cautious. Most targets are hypervigilant.

For me personally I have learnt not to trust them in many cases. The smallest thing with informants can and will be taken out of context, misconstrued, deliberately, or accidentally, but it does not matter because the end result for the target could be the same. Institutionalization, jail, loss of employment, loss of housing, loss of a friendship or loss of reputation.

The times I have tried to be helpful with informants, or have become overly friendly are the times that I have often suffered the most, and thus for the most part I keep my distance, for many of them can not be trusted.

The thing that is most alarming about this system is that, all it takes is the word of an informant to convict you, or destroy your life. That is the informant culture that we live in today, and many of them can not be trusted.

The scary part for me is that even when it becomes clear that one of them lied, or deliberately tried to do something destructive, the majority of informants just pass it off as something simple. They are willing to crucify the targets, but are fully willing to forgive each other. I guess that is how gangs, cults, and secret societies work. They over look the evils that the cult, gang, club members do, but are willing to destroy others for way less.

The nature does not change. No matter how many times false rumours occur, they willing believe one after the other. The target is never consulted. No matter how much slander gets put out about the target, they are often willing to swallow the next dose, almost as if it's the medicine that keeps them going. I am no longer surprised by this. I just shake my head and move on, past the meaningless "I'am sorries." Because much like someone in an abusive relationship, they are only sorry till it happens the next time, and as a target you know that there will be a next time.

Thus I have learnt to limit my interactions with them. The lies that they make up out of thin air are bad enough, but I find that it's best to interact with them on a limited basis, giving them as little ammunition to work with as possible. For it's in their nature to be lying, deceitful. This system does not produce good citizens. Good citizens produce good citizens. This system teaches people to lie, cheat, steal, set people up, and destroy lives.

The other crazy thing is that as many times over the years that rumours or slander has started, the citizen informants for the most part make very little effort to confirm or deny what they are hearing. This extends to employers, landlords, and others that you have to interact with. You can be fired from jobs, lose housing, all based on lies that you might never find out about, unless you gain access to your files. It's incredible the lies the informants are allowed to make up, which never get corrected, and are out there on a person. Jiverly Wong is a great example, of rumours, lies, slander and gossip. If people had taken the time to let him know what was being said, to break their silence, so he could clear his name, I think a tragedy might have been averted. Instead they all went along with it, because it's in their nature, and with dire consequences.

With all that I have seen over the years, I do realise that this is their nature, and interacting on a limited basis with the majority of them is the best option. I have walked into places with people who were very friendly one day, and very cold and distant the next, busy feeding on the latest lie, slander, ready to carve into the target, ready to believe the worst. Not even willing to give a hint as to what the crime or offence committed was, because naturally you should know and thus must already be guilty. I have just learnt to smile, nod, and just avoid them. Then the odd time when information get's corrected, they smile and act as if nothing happened. Coming over and being overly bright and happy. It's very hypocritical, but it's in their nature. After the last several years, I have adapted my nature to deal with such unstable people.

Imagine being a target you go to a church, work, school, you leave one day, on good terms, you come in the next day and suddenly you are enemy number one, no explanation, no hint, all eyes and hate upon you, you are already convicted, and tried without ever knowing what the crime is. Those around all too ready to feed on who they see as deserving of their wrath or punishment. That is the nature and pathology of these people. That is what targets go through on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, yearly, basis.

In my experience being around them for lengths of time makes very little difference, you would think that after the 5th false rumour, 10th, 20th, that these people would start to question the lies? No they are simple people. They believe each other, trust each other, no one would ever have an ulterior motive, no one would ever lie. They think so well of the club members, but from what I have seen of many of these club members, a lot of them lie, some are criminal informants and thus have a handler, some seem to be deliberately working for the psychological operation angel, and then some are just average gullible people, who get taken in with every new rumour, others are just nasty and looking for the dirt that they can find on someone else. Gossip and drama queens, men and woman, who are not happy unless they are feeding on the lives of others, and that is because it's in their nature.

To defend yourself against such is a continuous uphill battle. Thus most targets simply choose to interact, but on a very limited basis.

The targets are not asked to give their side, pulled in for an interview, the witnesses around them are questioned, but the target is often even unaware that an incident has happened. If this system was the good system that many try to make it out to be, the targets of this system would have a chance and format to get their side heard. Before an incident can be added to a targets file, they must get some kind of notice and a suitable amount of time to clear their file. Most at this stage don't even realise that they have a file, or how to access the information.

The way this system works is that normal actions are seen as disturbing. Things that others get away with in public, actions that most targets would be put away for, are taken for granted, and the community over reacts to the smallest incident. A type of mania in and of itself. A frenzy, only this type of frenzy is destroying the lives of innocent people, who often times have no idea as to why.

Government Backdoor

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2009/12/12/government-backdoor/

See screen caps at link above.

Does the government have a back door to the internet? I have posted before about strange happenings, but here is something that should be of interest.

I posted a comment at TMZ using my normal email address, the confirmation email did not arrive. I found it strange. So I created a different email address and posted a comment on a different article.

That email confirmation arrived. So it could just be that something was wrong with my original email right? So to test the theory, I created a second account with a different user name, and posted a bubble (meaningless comment) comment. For the bubble comment and different user name, I immediately received the following email. Portions have been edited, but you get the general gist.

(Please activate your comments by clicking this URL:

http://www.tmz.com/confirm/

The comments below will be added to the post titled )

So I got an email confirmation and password, which would allow me to post comments without any need for more email confirmations. I then went back to post my original comment that had a bit more substance, using the password and email, and it does not post. Remember I now have a password, and email, but my original comment is not posting.

So the question is do those that are doing the monitoring have a secret back door to the Internet that allows such things to happen? I think it could be more simple than that. Is there a way to prevent emails from arriving that a hacker could do? Cause I and many targets have seen emails not arrive, but in this case, my original did not arrive, the second did, and the third did not. I usually have better things to do, but I think I can somewhat prove this, ofcourse in typical fashion, after posting this, watch a billion comment show up on TMZ.

It’s not that far off a question considering that the military created the internet, why would they not have backdoors? Even if this specific situation is not caused by a government backdoor, is it not reasonable to assume that they have one?

If they do not have backdoors, then what can they do?

So to test out the theory further I created a third account, using the same mail company where the second email did arrive and lo and behold the email just like with the first email, same user name did not arrive.

I created a different user for the comment. This shows deliberate interference and I think this should make a rational person wonder, just a little bit if something odd is ongoing.

Now only is the comment being prevented from being posted, but emails are being prevented in this case.

So what happens to the emails? see in the first case, you could just assume that the email did not arrive, but the second email with the another company did, but the third email which was created using the first comment, with the second email company did not arrive.

The only difference with the emails is that one comment had a reference to Gangstalking and the other comment did not. Comment two which was a test comment was just a bubble comment, and it make it through.

I don’t think this is happening at TMZ’s side, cause I have seen this before on too many websites. This might be the closest that I have come to proving this. I believe it’s happening at the local end and the idiots doing the monitoring are responsible. So is there a hack that can do this? If so what? What is the work around?

If they need to block emails that badly, then that’s a good thing. It shows that they are scared of this being exposed, and I think this means we are doing better, than expected. Sure getting illegally blocked is not fun, but this can work in our favor.

If we continue to do what we are doing, then I think we can get this exposed.

Lastly when did google mail start requiring a sms phone confirmation for new emails? I have never seen this before.

What happens if there users don’t have a mobile or choose not to send? Can they still create an account in google. I have never seen this before, and would love some feedback from others.

I just checked and it typical make the target look crazy and discredit them, the postings are all there.

Except for a couple of things. Because I used the never signed up at TMZ option for my first email, I should have gotten a response in my in box and did not. So I contacted the site saying, hey I did not get my confirmation email. That was at 3:57 and up until I made this post, none of my comment were on that site, except for the bubble comment, which did not appear up until 4:31 and that was because I finally got an email in the second email account I created. Yet when I go back to this site, I can see comments from myself at 3:51 pm, which were my original comments. So how did the original comments post without the required email verification?

Let me recap. I posted a comment at 3:51 or there abouts. It did not post. No email was received. I tried it again, and nothing. I contacted the site at 3:57 and got their auto responder. Shortly after I created a second account, and posted a bubble comment just for the hell of it. That made it through right away after clicking on the confirmation email, plus another email giving me a user name and password. Subsequently I went went back to post and again nothing happened.

Yet now all the comments are showing. This is typical, trying to discredit the target, but I took the screen caps, which I find help a great deal.

The auto responder from 3:57. At this stage none of my comments where showing up on their site. So I emailed them to say hey what the heck, my comments are not showing.

My original comments are now showing. Those comments that I never received a confirmation email for, which were not showing up at the time of this posting, but are now fully there.

I also have a screen cap of my bubble comment which did post right away at 4:31 Pm on another article.

So were the comments just not showing from my end? A resonable explanation, but then why could I see the bubble comment and not the rest? Where are the missing emails? Why are all the posted comments now showing, about 6 of them in total, which just looks like spam now, but they were not showing at the time. Keep in mind that other comments were posting and those showed up just fine.

It’s a small thing, but sometimes it’s proving the small things that will help you prove the larger things. I by no means thing this is definitive proof, but it should make you go hum?

Computer issues and server problems.

Ok where have I been? I am having computer problems. Getting online, and when I do get o nline, my keyboard is sparadically working. Needless to say I think my computer problems seems to be somewhat deliberate. I use to keep my computer with me to avoid this, but recently I found I could no longer do that, and that’s when a lot of the computer problems started.
When I do get online, it’s like I am not on my own network, often it’s like my computer is connecting to another network. I could explain this better by going into details, but I just don’t have the time right now.

The website. Coincidentally, whenever I am not online, able to get online, the site keeps going offline. It’s been offline the last few days again, and I am trying to get the company I host with to fix this. There is no reason the site should be offline this much, unless it’s a really crappy company, or deliberate. Either way it’s not acceptable.

Work, what can I say about that. The usual rumours, slander, some mobbing, a bit of bullying, and the odd human thrown in, but all of them snitches. It’s like at the end of that movie Rosemary’s baby, and she realises that they are all witches and she is like, all of them witches, well it’s like, all of them snitches.

I am also a little bit bored. I mean this system of control, and snitches have been around, probably longer than I have, no one has changed it, I don’t know that anyone is going to change it, and as many people visit the website, no one is doing anything to get other sites out, info out. I mean some people are, but at times like this, it feels like you are doing things by yourself, and the apathy really kicks in. Also humans are just all the same across the board. I think they like their servitude to the system. As long as it does not break their back too much, it seems like they are ok with it. Maybe this is a false perception, but it’s the only one that I can come to for
the time being.

Anyways, on the site before it went offline, there was a great post, about the electronic weapons that are being used on us. Eg. A heart rate monitor, to figure out where the target is in their appartment. A lot of the stuff that they use to track, monitor, and hurt, is stuff that has been on the market for over a decade or more, and it’s just you get the odd person who knows what’s going on, and then they put up the information, and then no one bothers to preserve it, and so the next target has to start from scratch. It’s a pretty self-serving society.

I have lot’s more to write, but I have other things to attend to like getting the site back up, again. If anyone is really concerned about the site being offline, then try adding a mirror site, or something. Just a thought.