Do you ever get the feeling that you are just not getting anywhere?
Here’s my story sad but true It’s about a force that I once knew They took my statement than ran around With every single file in town
Ah I should have known it from the very start This force would leave me with a broken heart Now listen people what I’m telling you A-keep away from-a runaround Blue.http://www.crystal-reflections.com/songs/songs_51.htm
Wednesday Jan 10 2007.
I just had a lovely chat with officer Pierrepont, a community relations officer for my division.
Now remember this was the office I spoke to way back in November 02 2006, when I was trying to decide the issue of “should targets go to the police”?
While other officers had at least said they could come and have a look around and see if there were any strangers, which would have done no good, but at least it was an offer for assistance. I also had other officers who said they were willing to at least file a report, however not officer John the community relations officer. No he felt there was absolutely nothing that could be done, keep in mind he is the one assigned to work with these communities, and he is probably the person who ends up taking care of calls like this. Sadly for the targets of this harassment.
At the time he had said that there was nothing that could be done, didn’t offer to take a report or anything. He did say that at least one lady that was up on Lawrence he felt was crazy, because she complained about people putting things in her grocery cart. At the time I had explained that this was a gas-lighting tactic, and surprisingly he had said he was familiar with gas-lighting. Yet he still felt the woman was crazy. (His qualified opinion no doubt.)
That day after I had talked to him and offered to leave my contact details, he wanted to know if I was the one that lived on the main floor of the building, I had said no. (After rethinking this, it seems to be that there might be another target in this building on the main floor.)
That same day I had the unusual occurrence of waking up to find my door unlocked. Now I had forgotten to put the alarm on, that was my bad, but I am pretty sure I had locked the door, and it was unlocked when I awoke.I guess I was suppose to freak out and call back and explain this. More fuel for the fire? That wasn’t the only thing, but I could never shake the timing, and the fact that that was the first time I had shared my location with any of these officers.
So after still trying to decide what to do. I did go to a police station on November 29 2006, to file a police report in person. I waited over 2 and a half hours for the shift to change and then I filed the report with officer Rupnarine. We spent over a half an hour going over the details. He said there was nothing he could do, but would forward the details to his supervisor, and then someone would probably get back to me. I asked for a time frame, and he had said he could not give me one. I asked if that meant that someone might not get back to me and he had replied, that’s also a possibility.
Now remember the report is about stalking, by people I don’t know, offline and online. Stolen mail, and email tampering, telephone redirects, illegal entry and damaged clothing. Things that can all be investigated.
So I would say November 30, I called first to check to see if a report had been filed. Now remember I had been warned by other targets that they don’t tend to file these reports or take them seriously. I first checked with dispatch, they said no report had been filed. I then called the actual station and spoke to one of officer Rupnarine’s coworkers who said that a report had been filed, but he could not give me details of the report over the phone and I would have to call head office at 40 college street to get the report. He said he could not even give me the report number.
So December 3 or around there I called head office at 40 college to see if there was a report filed under my name. No report had been filed. I guess other targets know what they are talking about, even when we go in person to try to avoid the, report, what report? This still happens. A system fully working in place to cover itself.
When I did not hear anything back, I then tried to file a report about noise harassment, this was in early December 16 2006.
This report was made with an office at dispatch. They said they would send a car around. The walls are pretty thin here, and if someone had come out, I probably would have known it. The next day I called to do a follow up report to find out what was going on?
December 17 2006? I again find out that nothing has been actioned. There is no report for any type of harassment filed, and no one ever came out the night before. Why is this not a surprise? However the officer who did answer the phone tells me that, under my name he does not have any reports filed for harassment, but he does have a report from 1999, about an arrest for fraud under? This officer was really friendly and I found him to be helpful. See my blog entry regarding the seven year itch for more details. Needless to say I asked to speak to his supervisor, and he told me I need to get a copy of my file under freedom of information and then write a letter to the chief of police and get this removed from my files. It’s good to find out you sort of have a record, you were not really aware that you had.
This was an interesting revelation, because this incident happened about the year that I became aware of harassment at work.
December 22 2006. I was outside and from a pay phone tried to call and file a report, at the time I was told that no officers could take the report and one would have to call me back. I advised I was away from home and so would not likely get the call. I could never understand why they could not just transfer to a station, but that’s ok.
December 23 2006. This seems to be when I called again, they had someone call me back, an officer Brooker, who seemed professional and friendly and this is who the police report was finally made with. She said someone would get back to me, but with the holidays it might be in January, which was just fine. I did ask her about the first report not being filed and she said to speak to the officer who did not file it to find out why it was not filed. This officer gave me a report number.Apparently the key to this whole filing a police report is getting incident numbers or police report numbers. Other wise it’s apparently a big joke, for some of these people.
January 03. I followed up to confirm report was on file and to see if it had been assigned, was told to call back in a few days.
January 05, 2006. Noise harassment complaint, officers came out. However they did not follow up to let me know what had been the out come of the call. I followed up with the station. The officers were not there, but the desk officer gave me the incident report and the badge numbers and names of the officers. I later get a call back from one of the officers, who said he went to the door, stood there, heard nothing and left. He did say however that he could come back out and knock this time if there was a noise disturbance. Why so you can waste both our time? So to date, they have really essentially done absolutely nothing.
January 09 2006. Called and left a message for officer Rupnarine to find out why the original report had not been filed.
Something about going in person, and waiting for over 2 and a half hours only to have him not file a report was annoying, but also for other targets the feedback as to why he did not file, would have been good to know.
He has not gotten back to me. I suspect that he won’t.
January 10 2006. I had a call from officer Pierrepont. Not an investigation officer, but the community relations officer, the original one who said there was nothing he could do, and did not even bother to ask to take a report.
So after much prompting, with facts about community based policing, he says there is a community liaison committee that meets once a month, and oh anyone is welcome to come on out. Yeah right. Never mentioned this the last time. Was too busy telling me there was no neighbourhood watch and no groups patrolling the area.
He says they have representation from various communities throughout the division. They discuss the needs of the various communities. They discuss issues problems, take suggestions about what can be done. (*From what I have read online, solutions can even include empowering communitees to have control over someone and survellence, so more information can be gathered. I didn’t ask him about this however. Just getting him to admit to the community liaison committee was more than enough work.)
Then he says he has called a couple of times and gotten no answer. I advised that this is not the case. I have been home most of the time, and after all the craziness with the bell call answer, I have an answering machine in place. This man has never called, not once. So he dropped this point pretty quickly. He has never called, because after the report was filed, I made sure the machine was working, plus I have been around.
I then went back to our conversation about the fact that he told me this was happening to others, that he had had similar complaints. I said if that’s the case then there must be something that can be done. Eg. Demographics about who is getting targeted. Woman, minorities, etc.
He said that the four other people that had made complaints were all woman. I asked if they were also single and living on their own? He said yes they were also living on their own. He said that ethnically that the others were all white (anglo-saxon) females. I wonder how he knows this, because based on our last conversation, it did not sound like he had met with them. It sounded like he had just written off their complaints.
He said that he was not sure what to do, because it was not an everyday occurrence. Doesn’t matter if it’s not an everyday occurrence. Females are calling and telling you that they are being stalked and harassed, and it sounds like gas-lighting is also involved in all these cases. They are various ages, but all are single and living on their own. Should that not be a cause for concern?
Rape, murder and stalking thank God are not everyday occurrences in all areas, but once is too often for any of these crimes.
If this was a caring officer surely he would be concerned that 4-5 single females were complaining of being stalked and harassed by large groups of people, or that there was indeed some fact or correlation in their stories, when you broke them down and examined them? Guess not, guess that’s why the communities are patrolling and doing all the thinking.
He said the targets ranged from 30’s-60’s. Is the range he gave for the other targets.Now in his opinion he is telling me, that the other determining factor with this is mental illness. Remember during the last conversation, he had said he thought one, I quote one lady was nuts, the one up on Lawrence, and that was because she was complaining of people putting groceries in her cart. A very common gas-lighting tactic.
I challenged his assertion and asked if he was qualified to make that assertion, and he of course is not. He then said, that he just really felt that it was paranoia on their part. (Like the ad for enemy of the state says, it’s not paranoia if they are really after you.)
Then I schooled him a bit. I asked if he had read anything on gang stalking? I asked if he knew that there was a book called Terrorist stalking in America, and gaslighting how to drive your enemies crazy. If he was aware that the rape crisis center had supported a group that had been meeting in Toronto regarding this? Or if he was aware that another lady had also filed a report only to have it ignored and then go to the media and gotten two stories written about it, which got her investigation reopened again. He was not aware of any of this.
This is what I can honestly say from my perspective. He said I should call him on Monday. I pretty much don’t know that I will do this, because it’s just a waste of my time. Of all the officers that I had called and spoken to, just to fish for facts, or try to find out details, he has been the least helpful out of all of them.
He has tried to lead me down the wrong path with the whole, no, no neighbourhood watch. He could well have given me the facts about the meetings etc, but he purposely did not, until I had gathered enough facts to confront him with this.
I can also say that if I had not called to follow up with the original officer who failed to file the police report, I doubt I would have gotten this call today.I can honestly say, that they are not going to do anything about this, unless it’s a situation where they are forced to like the woman who had the story run in the paper, and even then from what I read on the raven1.net website, the paper was later contacted and asked to stop writing stories about gang stalking.
I have talked to an officer who tried to flat out deny programs like watch on wheels were happening, even when he was the one responsible for running it. I have spoken to another officer who admitted there was such a patrol program, like the one I was describing, but that they were not the ones responsible for it.
Then there is this officer who the community gets to deal with. For him alone targets will continually be written off and this will not get stopped.
I think looking back this is what I would do. I would file a report, because these reports do need to be filed. Knowing what I know now, I would have a standard format for filing these reports. Eg. I would try to stick primarily or just to the illegal stuff, like break and entry. Telephone bugging or listening. Online and offline stalking, mail stealing, etc. Just the more common things that are chargeable under the law.
I would make one phone call, not the dozen that I have had to make, to try to follow up on this and that or the other, or just to find out facts that would lead me in the right direction.
One call is all I would make. I would get the report number at the end of the call. Then I would go to head office or the main police station, pay to have a copy of my freedom of information and get anything that the police would have on me. Also to see the report and to find out what was printed on it. Eg. I recently read of a target who filed a police report, then they paid to have a copy of the report, only to find that the report number was attached to a blank page, with no information on it.
The report takes 30 days to arrive. In the mean time, I would wait to see if they got back to me. When the report arrived, I would first see, does it match what I advised them of? If so great. There is a report filed on organised stalking, gang stalking, whatever. Also having a copy of your files with the police, might help you determine if there is any reason for your targeting for this harassment.
If within the 30 days they have called you back, or started an investigation, great. If not and you still want to see why these people have not called you back, then you can call them back, or file a complaint about your police report not being followed up on after 30 days.
Repeatedly having to call them does little good, plus it should not be necessary. I honestly think there are some officers who would be willing to do something about gang stalking, I don’t think this community relations officer is the right one.
Based on all the officers I have talked to who have shown varying degrees of helpfulness, he falls towards the opposite end of the spectrum. I doubt very much if talking or dealing with this good old, friendly neighbourhood, officer is the way to go. I can honestly say that I don’t feel that my best interests would be served at all.
For me it’s important to see how this is working. We once again have a situation where something very wrong is happening and the police will not do anything to help, just like with Cointelpro it seems like too many are more than willing to go along with something that is very wrong. Also with the Intelligence based policing, they might be identifying with CSIS, and the RCMP a bit too much.
I find it troubling that this officer that is not qualified to make assertions about these people and their experiences would do so, so very easily.
I also worry because I have spoken to targets who have said that their harassment did increase with going to the police, or some have even said that they were then openly harassed by the police after filing reports.
What kind of society have we become where things like this are allowed to happen? Targets don’t feel safe going to the police, because we run the real risk of not being believed, thought of as mental, institutionalized, or locked up. Somehow this system is really not working, and I suspect it’s not been working for a very long time, or at least not working for those people that need it the most.
The other problem with the preliminary statistics is that men may be more reluctant to go to the police. Just like with male rape, which is under reported, this might also be something that men are not reporting, so it might not be that men are not getting targeted as much, because online we do see quite a few male targets, it might just be that they are not coming forward and going to the police. (With good reason.)
The other thing to consider is that when men are targeted for this harassment the rumours that they are targeted with are primarily drugs, pedophilia, or some kind of sexual deviant rumour. Could this also be preventing men from coming forward and getting help that they need?
I would love to do further research into this. I find the subject fascinating, not just because I am a target, but because this can go on in society at all levels and only the ones taking part or being targeted seem to be aware that this exists.
There are many surprises left and still available in this world and this is just one of them.
P.S. For statistic purposes, I forgot to ask if he was a Mason