Silence is not golden

I recently saw the news that Israel had used air-strikes on Palestine and had killed over 200 people.

There were discussions about this on the forums and all over the place, but what was also being discussed was the fact that President Elect Obama had remained silent.

He apparently at the time of those postings had not come out and commented. To say that this was disappointing would be an understatement. Some of the comments were things like, is this the change he promised us? Another poster was like, I knew we could not trust him, another was more hopeful and thought maybe he was just waiting to say something. I personally don't know what the truth is, personally I am just going to wait and see.

I can tell you however a few things that I have been seeing lately. After Obama pulled that shirt off stunt, some of the people more than ever, have been expecting their Camelot back. At a time when things are really not looking good, something about Obama reminds these people, and I say these people, because it's not just Americans, it remind and makes many people hopeful. They don't just like him, many of these people, seem to love him.

The other thing about this incident is people are disappointed because they are looking to him for leadership. I know he is only the president elect currently, but that does not seem to matter to many, they are looking to Obama, for guidance and leadership.

The other thing about Obama is he reminds some people of Martin Luther King Jr, but Martin Luther King Jr, knew that "injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere", that's why he could not remains silent about Vietnam. If he had not spoken about Vietnam, they might have let him live, but he did not remain silent, he knew that "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy", and thus he spoke up and spoke out, and the people loved him for it, and many are again expecting a similar type of leadership.

I just think that if Obama is not going to be that type of leader, he should speak now or forever hold his peace, cause he is just going to end up breaking their hearts, and that's not cool. These people believe in him, and as far as the polls are concerned, he is the most popular President in the last three decades. That says a lot.

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml

[quote]Israel is "our strongest ally in the region and its only established democracy," Obama said, assuring his audience that "we must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs." Such advanced multi-billion dollar systems he asserted, would help Israel "deter missile attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza." As if the starved, besieged and traumatized population of Gaza are about to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles.

Obama offered not a single word of criticism of Israel, of its relentless settlement and wall construction, of the closures that make life unlivable for millions of Palestinians.

There was no comfort for the hundreds of thousands of people in Gaza who live in the dark, or the patients who cannot get dialysis, because of what Israeli human rights group B'Tselem termed "one cold, calculated decision, made by Israel's prime minister, defense minister, and IDF chief of staff" last summer to bomb the only power plant in Gaza," a decision that "had nothing to do with the attempts to achieve [the] release [of a captured soldier] nor any other military need." It was a gratuitous war crime, one of many condemned by human rights organizations, against an occupied civilian population who under the Fourth Geneva Convention Israel is obligated to protect. [/quote]

As for me and my opinion. I don't know how to not be outspoken, so let me tell you that I think air-strikes on Palestinians is wrong, it's not nice and I condemn it. I know that Palestine is not always innocent in their actions, but I also know that they are also provoked into taking action and lashing out. The knife cuts both ways, and no party is innocent here. However one party has airplanes, and tanks, and more fire power than a bunch of rockets.

I know many people are saying well then Palestine should sit back, shut up and take it, cause they know they are going to get their butts kicked, but it doesn't work that way. As a target of Gang Stalking and the underdog in a really horrible situation of state oppression, I am in the unique position to be able to sympathise with the underdog.

The same way I consistently hope that my fellow citizens will raise up their voices and condemn what is happening to me and other targets as unjust and do something about it, is the same way I am speaking up and saying that what is happening to these people is unjust.

Two things come to mind. Recently this year Israel closed the borders with Palestine. I found out recently what this meant. This meant that organizations like the Red Cross could not get food and other supplies into the people of Palestine. This also means that no one can leave and no one can enter, that's means you turned them into a prison. A prison where people are starving and dying, and the people can't leave to save themselves, and the people who are trying to get in to help them can not. That is unjust and not nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSzn7XLLM7c

The other thing I found out recently is that Israel are trying to get the people of Palestine to become snitches. You know how I feel about this. If they can turn those people into snitches, then this global surveillance society is just one step closer. The U.S. has accomplished this in Iraq, and Palestine is one more area where this needs to be accomplished. Apparently
imprisoning and starving people is a good way to do this. Uncool.

[quote]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/04/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast1/print

Israel's secret police pressuring sick Gazans to spy for them, says report·
Treatment only offered to would-be informants

Monday 4 August 2008

Israel's secret police are pressuring Palestinians in Gaza to spy on their community in exchange for urgent medical treatment, according to a report released today by an Israeli human rights organisation.

Physicians for Human Rights says the Shin Bet began interrogating Palestinian patients seeking permission to travel from Gaza to Israel for crucial medical help after Israel blockaded and then declared the tiny territory an enemy entity more than a year ago.

Typically, patients are taken to a small, windowless room, underground, beneath the security terminal at Erez, the only passenger crossing that remains open between Gaza and Israel, where they are questioned by Shin Bet agents for hours, the report says.

Refusal to cooperate often results in the denial of medical treatment. Based on the testimonies of more than 30 Palestinians - 11 of which are published - the report says the Shin Bet is using coercion and extortion to force patients to collaborate.

"They took me through underground passages and made me sit in another waiting room for almost 45 minutes. A man approached me and called me to another room for interrogation. He asked me to sit down and presented himself as Moshe," Bassam al-Wahidi, a Fatah-aligned journalist, said in his affidavit to Physicians for Human Rights.

"After all my responses he said to me: 'I want to talk to you openly when you return from Israel so that you will have an acceptable reputation on the Israeli side. Either you make contact with me and agree to my demands, or you will not get any medical treatment which will cause you to be blind and you will become a burden to your family and friends,'" Wahidi said in his affidavit.
But he said he refused and was forced to return to Gaza without receiving any treatment. Now the 28-year-old, who married a year and a half ago, is completely blind in his right eye and losing the vision in his overstrained left eye.

"I might divorce because I can't stand in front of my wife as a disabled person," Wahidi said .[/quote]

I don't have a problem condemning unjust actions when I see it. I know both parties have been at fault in the past, but this air-strike was unkind and cruel.

As a target of Gang Stalking I am the underdog at times against state oppression, my fellow citizens are used to provoke me, and other Targeted Individuals, if we lash out in public at anytime, it is the target who will be portrayed as the aggressor, and the belligerent one, who is causing all the trouble, but the unseen side of that, the side that is not reported, is that our lives are being messed with and interfered with on a daily bases, in unspeakable ways. Yet if we lash out, we are the aggressors.

The situation in the middle East is not an easy one. I often think, what would King Solomon do if he was alive today, and having to deal with this situation? For those who don't know Solomon was an old testament King, he is famous for helping two women who both claimed a baby was theirs, he decided to see how they would react if he split the baby in half, the real mother said no go ahead and give the baby to the other woman, and the other woman was ok with splitting the baby apart. He is known for his vast wisdom, his leadership, and he was an amazing king, probably one of the best old testament Kings that Israel had. He was a just king, his wisdom endeared him to not only the people of Israel but to those far and wide, even causing the Queen of Sheba to come from her nation to pay him a visit.

I often wonder what such leaders of the past would say about the situations in this time period. What would Martin Luther King Jr say? What would Solomon do? We can only guess in some cases, but we do have leaders in this time period, some of which the people are counting on to make the right decisions for them and others. History will remember this time and the actions or in actions that accompanied it. I would like this time to be remembered as a time of change for
the better, not for it's silence and in actions.

Chain Reaction

[quote]After researching much of the information regarding the Informant system, I believe this is at the heart of much of the corruption that we are seeing in our society. In our justice systems and in our communities. I believe this system is enslaving large portions of society. I also believe that there are many of us that were and are blissfully unaware of what is happening and will remain so until it is too late.

There is a chain reaction that is happening in society that if left unchecked has the potential to infect and destroy the very core of society that we have all known and depended on. That is of course the snitching infection. I call it that, because there is no other way to describe some of the events that I have read about while doing research into the Informant system.

While researching this phenomenon I have come across people who one minute seemed like average decent persons, and the next minute after being caught up in the Snitching/Informant system were willing to sell their very mothers down the drain to keep themselves free. This is not going to be the case for every Informant, but it's the case with too many that are a part of this system.

Once let loose back into society many will continue with a life of crime. others will continue with what I call the game.


The Game

The game is one of set up's and betrayal where the Informant will try to set someone up for a fall. They will choose a target and the unsuspecting target will get caught up in a scheme of some kind, eventually be arrested, they do not necessarily have to have committed a crime, and then the informant will testify against the person they entrapped, or other informants will. Once this new person is caught up in the game, should they be turned informant then the cycle continues once again.

I don't know how many Informants are a part of this game that is ongoing in society, but I suspect that the many are, and all of them once they decide to become informants are owned by the system, and their handlers. That means anytime the government wants or needs a favor guess who they will call upon? Do you begin to see the makings of a corrupt society? Remember they could call upon these informants years later after these informants have been let loose.

Many of these Informants will also go onto have careers, and even become contributing members of society, but they are still owned by the state. A lot of these Informant deals are kept off the records, meaning that the person is owned by a handler, but there might not be an official record of it, but when that handler needs a favor, that Informant will be called upon, and will risk exposure if they do not comply.

[quote]For example, unlike a classic plea bargain, informant deals lack finality because an informant's obligations are ongoing. Written co-operation agreements often extend a defendant's obligations into perpetuity, while informal, unwritten agreements last as long as the police or prosecutor wishes to use that informant.[/quote]

To understand how the game works, we will review three case studies. These are just a few of the many that I came across when reading the stories on the wall. It's a continued pattern of set up on unsuspecting pigeons, and hardened Informants who will do what they need to do to stay out of jail.

http://www.november.org/thewall/wall/wall.html

Before we review the case studies I am going to again remind you of some statistics.

http://www.aclu.org/images/asset_upload_file744_30623.pdf

[quote] as many as fifty percent of African American males in some cities - are in contact with the criminal justice system and therefore potentially under pressure to snitch. By relying heavily on snitching, particularly in drug-related cases, law enforcement officials create large numbers of informants who remain at large in the community, engaging in criminal activities while under pressure to provide information about others. These snitches are a communal liability: they increase crime and threaten social organization, interpersonal relationships, and socio-legal norms in their home communities, even as they are tolerated or under-punished by law enforcement because they are useful.[/quote]

[quote]The uncoordinated, widespread use of informants in the United States by thousands of different police departments and various federal agencies does not of course, amount to the focused, purposeful political mission of the Stasi. But if anywhere near eight percent of the male population in inner city communities is snitching, that figure meets or surpasses Stasi level of between one and ten percent of the total population as informers.[/quote]

http://november.org/stayinfo/breaking08/HoffmanCase.html

[quote]If things had gone according to plan, you never would have heard of 23-year-old Rachel Hoffman. She would have just been another confidential informant, one of more than an estimated 100,000 in the United States who work with police to send someone else to jail.[/quote]

These figures do not include people who are informers via work, school, or community group programs. When we take into consideration numbers such as that, we are looking at an epidemic that is worst than what happened in East Germany. Keep in mind that in addition to all this, there will also be 800,000 Terrorism Liaison Officers added to the Informant population in the United States. These figures should wake up America and other cities to the dangers of what is happening in various societies.

The Game

To understand the game you might want to picture it in the sense of how a disease spreads, you start with on carrier and that person infects one person right after another. Some of those carriers will go on to infect others. Some will be dormant and not infect anyone. You might also want to think of the movie lifeforce, where one has the constant need to feed on one person after another, then those victims need to feed on others. You can have a very sick and infested city in a short space of time if such an infection goes unchecked.

The game is one of the Informant being placed primarily back in society, but this could also happen in jail, where an informant via lies, deceit, entrapment or some other methods set's up another person to take a fall. That person then come in contact with the criminal justice system, they can then choose to become informants themselves, or refusing to do so, will spend lengthy spaces of time in prison. This game is primarily enacted via drugs, but that's not the extent of it. Shoplifting is another example. I see this used with the teenaged informants, setting up their friends to steal from the stores, so that they in turn can become snitches.

Theft, drugs, stolen cars, any crime that someone can make a deal with police to become informants, they can be released back into society and are a danger to the rest of society. This is not to say that all Informants are horrible people, many just did not want to be in jail, some others are a true danger to society, nearly all are under pressure by the government to produce other Informants, and that obligation is never ending, some are allowed to lay dormant, till they can be of use.

http://november.org/stayinfo/breaking08/FL-Hoffman6.html

[quote]In Hoffman's case, it was the work of another informer that led to her own work for the police.

On April 15, an informer told Tallahassee police that Hoffman had sold marijuana in the past but hadn't done so recently, according to police records.

At the time, Hoffman, 23, was in a pretrial drug diversion program because of charges of possession of marijuana and resisting arrest in February 2007. To stay in the program, she had to stay out of trouble.

Two days after police got the informer's tip, a Tallahassee police officer stopped Hoffman as she was getting into her car[/quote]

http://www.mapinc.org/images/Hoffman.jpg

Rachael Hoffman then went on to become an Informant. She first tried to set up a close friend and when that failed, the close friend helped her find the dealers who she tried to buy drugs from on behalf of the police. The sting went wrong and she was killed. Had this gone successfully, those drug dealers if they agreed to become informants might have been released back into society as Informants and the cycle would have continued. It's a frightening cycle that has become more widespread than can be imagined.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/

Case number 2.

Joey Settembrino was a young 18 year old, just about to go off to college.
He was set up by an Informant. The Informant was a close friend of his. He use to spend his weekends at the Informants house.

[quote]He was a very good friend. I had known the guy for many years. We had gone out every weekend, fishing on his boat, hydrosliding, skiing. I was very shocked; it was very unexpected. It's not something you expect from friends.[/quote]

In an Informants society, it's what you expect from just about everyone and it makes people suspicious and closed off. This is what happened in East Germany once the population became aware of what was happening. In America many Americans are not aware that these types of games are being played. In these cases the targets were encouraged and did get into illegal activities, however that is not always the case, and many times innocent people who had nothing to do with illegal activities are still caught up in these games and convicted on the testimony of Informants.

[quote]He wanted me to go back to the house where I got the acid from and get something else. They wanted me to wear a wire and they wanted me to go back there ... to buy some other type of drug, no matter what it was, whatever he had in the house, so they could set him up. Just a chain reaction, one gets to one, one gets the other and they just keep going. I told him that I couldn't do that, that I didn't get the drugs from that house. At that time I was really confused. I was shocked, and I told him that I couldn't do anything for him. But he kept trying, he kept threatening, talking about a lot of time. "You're going to do 25 years. You're going to be in prison your whole life." ... He really tried to scare me. But I told him I couldn't do anything for him ... . [Eventually] they went back to the house in which I got it from, they arrested the other guy, my friend [who I bought the acid from]. And he's now doing a 10-year sentence along with me. [/quote]

Joey said it best. This is like a chain reaction that just keeps going and going. One get's one, then another and another and another. Those in turn get others and the cycle continues. Remember it's not just drugs, and it's not just the guilty that are being caught up in this game. If we review cases of Gang Stalking, we hear of men who thought that a woman had entered their life for the sole purpose of setting them up to look like a rapist or something else.

There are stories of targets being framed or other set up's, and there are targets that do turn informant and then go back into society and try to harm other targets. This is happening in ever sector of society. Rachel, Joey and even Clarence were all going off to college, or had finished college when they were caught up in these stings.

Joey refused to become a snitch and thus spent 10 years in jail. His friend that set him up, who had been caught for drugs himself, was back on the streets, selling drugs, and setting up at least 11 or 12 others in the first year that Joey was in jail.

[quote]Do you know why they wanted you?
I've asked that question, I've asked myself that a thousand times, "Why me? Why did he set me up?" ...[/quote]

In this game that is happening, I would say that they want just about everyone. They will get some people via community programs to be Informants, some via their places of employment, or community programs. Now the people who are informants via community programs and other legit means might not play the game of setting people up directly, but they are still part of the game, and they still work hand in hand with these others that are playing by a different set of rules. Many might not be aware of who they are working hand in hand with. At the end of the day, they all work for the state, government and all the orders come from the same sources.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/snitch/cases/aaron.html

Clearance is in jail because he introduced two parties that wanted to buy or sell drugs to each other. He had never been involved with drugs before, but one day his cousin called him up and asked him if he could find someone to buy drugs from. He said he knew some people and thought that they might be involved in dealing, he would check into it.

Clearances case is interesting because all the other parties who turned Informant received less time than he did. He does not know why his cousin and the others turned against him and lied, or why the prosecutor seemed intent on punishing him because he would not snitch and become an Informant.

[quote]What was it like having your friends testify against you?

Well, we're sitting in the courtroom. These guys that I knew all my life came up, and they said [stuff] about me that wasn't true, and they hurt me. It really truly hurt me, Robert and James really hurt me 'cause James is my first cousin. I looked up to him all my life. Robert was supposed to be my best friend at the time. We grew up together from playing Pop ball all the way up to high school ball together, and I couldn't believe that they would sit there, in front of me ... and say the things that they said about me ... . [The] only thing I could say was it wasn't true. But nobody believed me ... . You had to have a fall guy, and I was that person. [/quote]

It should be noted that the others involved all had prior drug convictions. Which means if they were out on the street and able to set him up, they were likely already Informants. He doesn't know why they turned on him, but it's possible that this might have been the idea from the get go. The assumption being that he would turn snitch and then be in a prime candidate on the college campus, a pawn to be used to set up other pawns, because that is how the game works.

[quote]Why did he do it?

Well, I had a opportunity to talk to James one time ... . He said, "Man, I'm sorry, man." I say, "James, why you do me like that?" He say, "Because I had no choice." I said, "What you mean you have no choice in the matter?" He say "Because Miss Griffin say she didn't want Bob to try your case." She say if [he] didn't cooperate and do what she told him to do, that she was going to hurt him worse in his case ... . He say, "Well, the prosecutor Miss Griffin said if I don't do it she going to put me in prison for the rest of my life ... . I got to do what I got to do." [/quote]

He stats that the prosecutor pulled his cousin aside and when his cousin went back on the stand, his cousin lied. This is not the first time scenarios like this have happened, it can only be imagined what these prosecutors or handlers have on these Informants to make them sell out their own friends, and family.

[quote]And the real drug dealers are out --
On the street now. And probably doing the same thing they were doing before they went in. I just don't understand. [/quote]

He also does not understand, but if you review enough of these cases, you start to see a pattern and you start to understand, this is how the game works, and yes they are probably back on on the street looking for the next pigeon to set up, and try to turn them into informants.
It reminds me of something a forum member once told me. This guy said that he was set up because he met this woman online, who he dated only to discover that she was married. Her husband got mad and that's why he thought he was set up.

The person on my forum pointed out that he had met the woman via some co-workers who introduced him to the website where he located this woman. The person on my forum suggested that he was probably profiled and set up by the co-workers who sent him to the site, knowing he would met this woman. The idea is that these games and set up's take place long before the victim is aware that they are part of a game.


The Global outlook.

Targets of Gang Stalking complain that even when they leave countries such as the U.K., Canada, U.S. that the stalking continues. That is understandable we have seen muli-governmental corporation in other investigations.

What is not understandable and the most frightening sector of this is that various targets have moved to a variety of countries and they all report the same thing, Informants that are able to follow them 24/7.

This suggest that these Informant networks are getting global in nature. They are popping up in areas that are unexpected, and if this trend continues we will have a global surveillance society.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/04/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast1/print

[quote]Middle East: Israel's secret police pressuring sick Gazans to spy for them, says report· Treatment only offered to would-be informants· Patients allowed to cross the border drops sharply[/quote]

The same situation is happening in Iraq where they previously had family structures that might have prevented Informant networks from spreading as rapidly. The country will be rebuilt and the Informant structure will be a part of it.

Why would a global surveillance society be necessary?

I will not speculate. I will however say that based on research many societies in history that had a dictator, tyrant, or despot who came to power and who wanted to pull off an unpopular agenda's such as Hitlers Germany, or Stasi East Germany, employed an army of Informants. It's the most effective way that a society can control, monitor and subdue the inhabitants.

Since history has shown us that these informant networks are often needed to move forward tyrannical agendas, then can it be assumed that if we could slow down or stop the chain reaction of the Informant movement, we might be able to stop some of the corruption that we are seeing in many areas of society?


Stopping the Chain Reaction.

To stop the Informant infection people need to be aware that there is a lethal chain reaction happening in many parts of society. They need the understanding of how the game is played, and awareness of how far spread and how far reaching it is.

In America prison system reform could go a long way towards fixing the system that has become corrupt. Then prosecutors would not be as dependent on the testimonies of Informants and the power could start to shift back.

The family structure. Communities with less stable family structures are more vulnerable to this system.

People need to be aware that these entrapment's are happening at every level of society, ever profession in society, thus why it goes all the way up to the top.

If people are unaware, they will not realise the various ways that people can become entrapped, including using someone that you are in a personal association with, or who you just "accidentally" meet. Someone you have a business relationship with.

Some people they will use their own greed and stupidity against them. Other will be a deliberate trap, others will be framed and will have committed no crime. Not being aware of how this system works, many will quietly accept off the record deals, and thus become indebted to the state, able to be used at will. Remember this is happening at all levels of society. Rich, poor, black, white, male, female.

If you have a parent, grandparent that was a snitch, Informant, they might try to go after the next generation.

Your friends, family, co-workers, anyone that is an Informant not by choice but by force, can be a liability to an innocent person.

The problem is more widespread that many realise, and what's even worst is the silence that surrounds this problem in society. Till it's talked about, discussed, and exposed it will continue to infect society, and have far reaching and unimaginable consequences, not just for those caught up in the game, but for the many unsuspecting victims, targets, or pigeons yet to come. This is not just happening at local levels. Targets have moved to various countries around the globe and encounter the same type of surveillance network.


We must stop this chain reaction. Awareness and exposure are key.
Happy Holidays. [/quote]

The reason I am not a snitch.

The reason that I am not a snitch. Someone recently reminded me of how important it was to start snitching. Yes in crack world maybe.

However in my world I am not a snitch and do not choose to be, because I am already too busy being a witness. I am too busy out testifying to the evils that are being committed. See I don't need to be a snitch cause I am already a witness, but what's the difference you ask?

http://www.sssw.ca

[quote]Witnessing teaches society to do what it has always been expected to do. Be a good neighbour, watch out for those around you. Protect them and care about them like you would for yourself. It's all about freedom to stand up against the oppression of criminal elements in society. Being a witness does not bound and entrap, it's about being free and helping out those around you. Witnessing shows that you care about your friends, family and the society at large. It's noble because the goal is to protect, assist and keep our community safe.

Snitching advocates the fact that you do not have to respect the laws of society, you just have to be willing to snitch when the time comes. Snitching does not foster moral or social responsibility for criminal actions. It fosters a lack of community trust, and shows that law officials will willingly turn a blind eye to the crimes of snitches, and let them walk free in society, or have reduced jail sentences. It's used to help criminals set up and inform on other criminals, and sometimes on the innocent.

Witnessing does not stop the police from doing their jobs, in fact it fosters community corporation because the community sees criminals being put away. There are no dirty under handed deals enslaving members of their communities to become informants and so it fosters a sense of trust with the very people who citizens are suppose to be able to trust.

Snitching destroys families and communities. It does this by making the young men and woman in those societies untrustworthy. It encourages backstabbing and betrayal of friends, family, strangers. It's puts societies that are already strained into even more strained circumstances. Snitching creates mental slaves, who willingly or unwillingly sell their souls to the system for reduced sentences, or freedom from iron prisons.

Witnessing allows the police to do the work that they were hired to do. It puts the proper amount of power back in the hands our legal justice system.

Snitching allows police and prosecutors to get into a vicious and relentless cycle of dependency. It teaches police an addictive reliance on criminal informants for the conviction of other criminals. It teaches them to be lazy and to trust the untrustworthy. Most times to the detriment of the very societies they are sworn to serve and to protect.

Witnesses help and keep society safe and like wise they should be protected by the community they risk their lives to keep safe, and by the law enforcement persons assigned to those communities. These are the people that should be getting immunity and full protection from law enforcement. This form of community corporation is helpful and it fosters good will in society. We learn to trust that wrongs will be made right and those that commit crimes will pay for them. It's a cohesive force that holds society together.

Snitching is being used to destroy the moral fibers of society. It's being used to put criminals on the street with full immunity from crimes they might commit or have committed, because they are snitching on others. It's a devious dragnet that is creating and endless army of slave informants for the law enforcement community. It's causing devastation in some communities, and it's doing more harm than good.

When a society sees that criminals can be put back on the street and protected for their past crimes and future crimes, it erodes the morals of that society. People learn to not trust or respect law enforcement and they also learn to not corporate with law enforcement, cause how can you trust someone who employs the services of paid criminals?

Witnessing is all about liberation and being free, snitching is mental slavery that leaves individuals owned and trapped in a perpetual cycle that hurts society at large. Cases are being solved, but at what cost to the society, morally and ethically?
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See people think that snitching is really doing society a lot of good, but as I have blogged about before it's no such thing. Snitching is ruining society and many communities, but very few people have brought the issue into the forefront.

What has been said before is that people who get caught in criminal acts, murder, rape, pedophiles, drug dealers, etc are getting sweet deals and they are getting off, or getting out early, they go back out into these communities and commit high rates of crime, thus people get scared and they want the police to do something to help them. These criminals do not get arrested again, because they are police controlled informants, and so they often end up terrorising these communities, driving up the rates of crime in a society. It then creates a need for these Citizen Informant Programs and gives people the impression that snitching is a good thing. Being a good neighbour is the only thing that has ever been required.

I am doing that, I am being a good neighbour, when I see something that I don't think it right, I write about it, blog about it, talk to people about it.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/meet-your-meat/
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/15/9-year-old-in-american-prison-camps/
http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/09/11/conspiracy-of-two/

If I saw someone hurt in my community I would look out for them, and my community. That is what I do, that is my responsibility. I however do not need to be part of a snitching system to do this, and if society has brain washed some members into thinking that is what is necessary to feel safe, then I feel truly sorry for them.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin,

And they shall have neither. In the end you will be the vehicles of your own enslavement and you will have no one to blame but yourselves. Be good citizens, look out for each other, respect and care for one another, if you see something that is not right do your duty as a citizen, speak out, testify, but you never have to be in a controlled program to do you essential human duty.

I am too busy being a witness, whistle-blower, light, town crier, etc. I am doing what I am meant to be doing, and I never have to be a snitch to do what is required of me. These lessons use to be taught in the schools, when we use to let God into the schools, they were the most basic lessons, do unto others as you would have done unto you. Basic morality use to be taught, and I think it use to make us more free, more human, more decent to one another, but I have not see that for a long time.

Therefore snitch if you want to snitch, but as for me, I will serve God.

Joshua 24:14-24

To snitch or not to snitch?

For some people this really is a question. The next two posts will look at some of the issues related to snitching.

The first is a repost of a forum post I did back in 08/08. I had not idea at the time that the snitching issues was related to the Gang Stalking issue. I really thought that they were two seperate entities. I was however alarmed by what I read about how snitching drove up crime in society and post about it on several forums. Here is a repost. Several of the links will be none fuctional. As you know online links go missing, get deleted, moved, etc.

08/08
The idea of a surveillance society or snitch culture.

Both ideas are very current and many people do not realize how much it affect society. I really did not until I started doing more research on the subject.

There has been a whole brouhaha about the stop snitching message over the last two years. Many people see it as just a way for thugs to try to intimidate witness into not talking, but that is covering the underlying reasons why some educators, prosecutors, and people in many communities feel that the stop snitching message is a good one.

The other side of this coin is the fact that some communities have almost an estimated 50% of their young men and woman caught up in the informant programs. They are being asked to snitch on friends, family and people in their neghboruhoods. This in itself might not seem so bad on the surface, but it's destroying community trust in the police and it's causing snitches to be the deciding factor in weather a case get's prosecuted or not. In other words, the power is in the wrong place, and snitches have more power and play a greater role in justice than they should.

Also while on the informant programs, many snitches are allowed to continue their lives of crime without any penalties whatsoever. This means that they can sell drugs, do illegal activities and they have a get our of jail free card. Well in some communities this now means that snitching or informant criminals are running the show, with the awareness of the police who will not do anything cause the snitches are helping them out.

It's really devastating to some communities. Two of the communities hardest hit so far have been the Hispanic communities and the black communities in the states, however it's not limited to these communities, that was just the start.

So as the debate about stop snitching rages, many young men are getting the message that snitching is bad, but they are getting the message that all snitching is bad, meaning even helping out when they see a crime. That should not be the case either.

The other side feels that if you believe the stop snitching message you are into something illegal or against working with the police, the problem however is again the missed message about what snitching is doing to society.

There are some great articles on this if anyone wants to have a read. The articles show both sides, the state and state their views about the message, and have a quick glance at how widespread the informant snitch culture has become across America.

People would be really surprised I think.

The first is by Alexandra Natapoff. She talks about both sides of the message and why the informant culture is ruining society.

http://www.slate.com/id/2132092/

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mav9tOvmWcQ

The next article is by Rheal Seguin. Get out of jail free. Lawyers challenge Informant deals

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
servlet/ArticleNews/freeheadlines/LAC/20060808/INFORMANTS08/national/National

The article is by Peter Waldman.The next is about an American who was asked to become a snitch or loose his green card.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13970.htm

This article is by Christopher Heredia. T-shirts illustrate divide 'Stop snitchin' stymies police trying to cut crime.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/28/BAGHUGV3AE1.DTL

Written by Beryl Wajsman. Of snithches spies and cowardly courts.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/wajsman052006.htm

This article is by Patricia Williams. Patricia J. Williams. Truth or Consequences
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060403/william

Witten by Jim Kouri. Snitches Rats and Sqeelers. Why they do it.
http://www.oscweb.com/writing/crime10.htm

A really neat article that I just read about this says that Informants in former Eastern block countries might have played a role with driving up mental illness in those societies because no one ever know who they could trust.
http://www.november.org/razorwire/2005-02/Snitch.html

In East Germany the secret police or Stasi were able to use a super snitch or informant force of 1 in 50 of the population to spy on most of the country.

The American T.I.P.S. program that was officially cancelled, but according to other sources resurrected and privately funded was to have recruited 1 in 25 people for spying. 1 million spy's.
To communicate in public when you know what to look for is very easy and can be done quite stealthily.

Eg. Tapping the side of the nose, brushing back the hair three times, taping the corner of the eyes to say watch target.

Here are the signals the East Germans use to use. Stasi secret police.http://www.nthposition.com/stasiland.php

SIGNALS FOR OBSERVATION
1. Watch out! Subject is coming - touch nose with hand or handkerchief
2. Subject is moving on, going further, or overtaking - stroke hair with hand, or raise hat briefly 3. Subject standing still - lay one hand against back, or on stomach
4. Observing Agent wishes to terminate observation because cover threatened - bend and retie shoelaces
5. Subject returning - both hands against back, or on stomach
6. Observing Agent wishes to speak with Team Leader or other Observing Agents - take out briefcase or equivalent and examine contents.

To have an effective surveillance society it would seem that the informant force would have to be widely used, the only problem is that could have a large effect on society, and the morals of society.

Eg. How does a young person cope when they have been asked to become informant, they have a life time sentence of watching friends, family and turning in people, sometimes innocent people to keep themselves free of jail.

There is probably enough material for a few discussions, and many people in society are affected by this growing wave of surveillance snitch society, many that might not even be aware.
If these issues are not brought to the American public via television it could well turn up on their door steps when they least expect it.

Remains of the day.

What will be left after this is over with? Will this be over with? Will anything be left?
I mean once a society falls the way of spying and snitching on each other, is there any coming back from that? Is that like trying to get your 13 year old who has been a prostitute for a year to obey a curfew? Possible but not likely. once a snitch always a snitch and you would have to wait for a new generation to bread out the snitching and spying habits.This is the perfect way to control a society. Let them think that they are in control, meanwhile they are just slave drones/droids for the State. This form of social control has worked for many societies and it looks like it will work to keep this one under control when the time comes. The people become their own worst enemies. Everyone wants to be free, but no one knows who to trust, and everyone is too scared to act on their own. I always wondered why the love of men's hearts would grow cold towards the end, and now I think I know. It was times like these that were described.

What are the remains of the day going to be? I mean the only way this could have come about was to raise a Godless, immoral, conformist society, where this would not be a problem. The last few decades or so have been spend doing that, and now for the final show, the government will continue to do that, but they will be in your life and the lives of your children almost from the cradle.

I think in the society that we had before people might have been too moral to go along with this, except for at time of war, at least that is what I tell myself, but who knows.
I know now is what is here. I was on the train this morning and I was trying to find the best word to describe our civilian spy force. I came up with a lot of words, but the best and most descriptive word seems to be a form of mindless conformity. I like to think that there was a period not too long ago where people would have objected to this, to going along with what everyone else is doing, and with being like everyone else, following the crowd. I think there was a time like this where people wanted to be individuals, but again I am not sure. All that's left now are these blank canvasses waiting to be written on, waiting for others to tell them what to do, think and feel.

On the weekend I had thought things were tapering off and got a little bit worried, but today the citizen spy force were back in full force, in fact they now have a couple of spies on my floor, who tried to escort me downstairs. I don't know why, it's not as if I am going to get on the elevator with your spy force, who can't be trust. Lunch time was fun, the quite little area that I found the first few days now always filled with suburban spies. It's so nice to have lunch by yourself sometimes. The State is all about taking away individual freedoms and powers, so why not time alone and time to think.

I am also not found of them when they try to find out information. Where are you going? Where are you headed for lunch? Oh did you do this that and the other? It's very transparent and it's like like go away suburban spy. I also hate it when they get people that I use to associate with to come and talk to me, and I know that they are suburban spies or just looking for info. It's like can you get away from me, and just go perp yourself. It's like I wish I had a can of Judas begone traitor spray.

I was on a forum recently and someone asked if Jesus would approve of all the Spying and gang stalking going on, and I was like, if he lived in this time period he would be gang stalked, what are you talking about.

His family asking him to stop preaching cause the town people were thinking he was crazy or possessed with a demon. People trying to spread rumours and slander about him. Close friend betraying him, and asked to keep an eye on him. Also people knowing his location like every two minutes. The State wanting him out of the way or dead. I was thinking that he would so have been seen as an outspoken dissident that had to be "dealt with." To answer the question I do not think he would have approved of all the spying that is going on in our societies.

What will be the remains of the day for this society? I don't think it will be much. It's a wasteful society that has twisted values. The things we should value and care about we don't and we spend our times in useless unfulfilling materialistic pursuits. We have not built great pyramids which will marvel future generations long after we are gone. Unlike societies in the past who could build and leave behind such structures like that, to confirm their existence and their advancements, we won't even have that. What will be the remains of the day for this generation?

Toronto's year of the gun revisited.

Toronto's year of the gun revisited.

The year of the gun we all know the stories right, drugs, gangs, ethnic youth getting access to guns, and then Toronto's year of the gun just exploded right.

That's the story and that's all there is to it, or is there more?

How many of these people were recently out on parole when they committed these crimes? Why were they out on parole?

How many of these people were out of jail or good community policing program behavior? Meaning that they were offered time out of jail if they agreed to take part in the new snitching programs that the city has on going?

How many were trying to walk away from this forced slavery program when they were eliminated?

How many were getting back at someone who had set them up for these programs?
How many gang members will be released back into the community because they agree to take part in these programs, as an extra set of eyes and ears for the community?

I can't judge these people who are looking at 15-20 years for gun related crimes, for choosing a life of slavery on the outside rather than a life of slavery on the inside.

I can blame a society who thinks that it's a good idea to let people who are committing the same exact crimes be bound by different rules, because they agree to join some snitch program.

I can also blame a society that does not stop to wonder what happens to these young people when they get a taste of freedom and decide that they don't want to be slaves for the rest of their lives, and try to leave these programs, only to realise that there is no way out, except maybe one.

It astounds me that these questions were not asked when we had our increase in the year of the gun. Sure gangs and drugs played a large part, but where there other factors that we were missing behind some of these crimes?

In other societies where these programs are instituted, they will kill you if you try to leave these programs. If you find out that your friends set you up to go to jail, you might just agree to take part in one of these programs long enough to get back on the outside so that you can find the person who set you up and settle the score.

These programs do more harm to the moral fiber of society than guns and drugs in the long run. Then the innocent get caught up in the cross fire of these programs, thus giving society a greater need for such programs, and the vicious cycle continues.

These programs have left lot's of scares on other societies, and wounds that have yet to heal. Do we know all the factors that contributed to the year of the gun? Are we ever likely to? Not if we don't stop to ask the questions.

Community snitching and bitching gone wild.

http://money.aol.com/wsj/general/canvas3/_a/the-snoop-next-door/20070117093409990001

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1169433715

The reason the article was important should be obvious. The kind of thing that are happening to us in the gang stalking community are slowly in various forms spilling over into other areas of society, not surprisingly.

This part of the article I found very impressive.

[quote]The digital age allows critics to quickly find a fair amount of information about their targets. One day last November, at about 11:30 a.m., a blog focused on making New York streets more bike-friendly posted the license plate number of an SUV driver who allegedly accelerated from a dead stop to hit a bicycle blocking his way.
At 1:16 p.m., someone posted the registration information for the license plate, including the SUV owner's name and address. (The editor of the blog thinks the poster got the information from someone who had access to a license-plate look-up service, available to lawyers, private investigators and police.) At 1:31 p.m., another person added the owner's occupation, his business's name and his title. Ten minutes later, a user posted a link to an aerial photo of the owner's house. Within another hour, the posting also included the accused's picture and email address. [/quote]

Can you imagine that. Within 2 hrs, there was enough info online to ruin this person. I mean this is crazy. If I really hate someone, break up with someone, etc, and want to ruin their life, I could post this kind of crap online, and within 2 hrs, there would be enough info online to ruin that person's life. Look at the info they were able to get in just 2 hrs.

-A simple licence plate. (11:30 am)
-license plate registration information. Including name and address.(1:16 pm.) Just one hour and 45 minutes later.
-owner's occupation, his business's name and his title. (2 hrs later.)
- a link to an aerial photo of the owner's house.(2 hrs, 10 mins later)
-the posting also included the accused's picture and email address (3 hrs and 10 minutes later.)
Imagine these 2 scenarios.

Let's say a child had been hit, and the community was furious, and they get this information. Let's say a bunch of them decide to go to the persons house to confront them.

Let's say the persons car was stolen, and they have no idea that the person was driving badly, but for the rest of their lives, this is on some website, and people start doing things to their homes and family.

How many other people have had stuff like this happening to them without ever realising it?
Do you see the subtle elements that are the start of gang stalking? This what is happening in China, Korea to a damaging degree. I mean did you see the next scenario?

[quote]Online shaming is happening across the world, with several well-publicized cases in China. Last fall, one blogger posted photos and the license plate number of a Beijing driver who got out of his car and threw aside the bicycle of a woman blocking his way. The driver was quickly identified by Internet vigilantes and soon apologized on television for his behavior. And on a popular Web site last year, after one husband accused a student of having an affair with his wife, other users posted the student's phone number and other personal details. After that, groups of people showed up at his university and parents' home, according to some reports. The student denied the affair.[/quote]

I mean what if some of these people had decided to teach the little home wrecker a lesson? Or just gang stalk him for his alleged crimes? This is where that community empowerment crap really goes wrong.

We then have people playing judge and jury, and often the person does not get to have a fair trial. Or what if an affair was happening, because her husband would beat and cheat on her, and she then turns to this student? Not good I admit, but there would then be more to the story.
People have false and invalid reasoning skill, often they do not reason they just hear something and they are so happy to play judge and jury, when most of them are not worthy to throw the first stone, and should not be casting the first stone, or any stone for that matter.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/14/news/korea.php

This is where the world is going however. We are seeing it wide spread in Asian countries like China and Korea, but make no doubt, this is what we are also now seeing here in many forms.