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Friday, December 25, 2009

Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday's. To one and all.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday's. To one and all.

I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holiday Season.

Wishing you all the best. Take heart, and hoping to see you all in the New Year.

Best and Warmest Regards,

From Gang Stalking World.

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Monday, December 14, 2009

Community Oriented Policing

Community Oriented Policing.

A target recently had some questions about his possible targeting, and I think that this is a good time to go over Community Oriented Policing Programs once again.

There are now efforts around the world to use something called community based policing. This is more than likely what is playing a large role in gang stalking.

[quote]“Ruling the community with an iron fist. “Savvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.” Covert Action Quarterly, summer 1997.”

Under these programs the community work with the police to find problems and solutions and yes the citizens inform to the police. Each area gets to more or less manage itself as it sees fit, a wet dream right?

Eg. In one area of one major city, this program allowed men to have sex openly in a gay club, in a gay district of town. In another area that had a lot of prostitution, they went very light on this.

So each area can manage itself as it sees fit, each area identifies problems, anti social behavior, etc and they work on solutions. Remember these programs joined forces with federal agencies, private foundations, corporations, community groups, local police, etc. So an employer who puts someone on a list could potentially get them targeted in all these areas.

What Is A Communitarian? by Niki Raapana

Communitarians believe that all neighborhoods should be governed like Chinese collectives. They teach that mandatory volunteerism in the community is a moral obligation of all citizens, and that intervening and reporting on your neighbors is required to maintain their individual freedom.

It may sound like two conflicting ideologies, but it’s not. Communitarianism balances all political conflicts into one master, ideological solution.


Under the UN Agenda 21 program all cities of the world will eventually move to this style of governance.

[quote]The communitarian plan for reinventing a global government was adopted by the UN in 1992 at the Earth Summit. There were no public votes cast for or against it in any of the affected "free" nations. Average citizens were not consulted. In most free and democratic countries, the nation's taxpayers (who pay for it) were never even told about it. The major media outlets were mostly silent while for thirteen years, the UN's LA-21 laws have been imposed on all 166 member nations.

There were no big discussions of its purpose or ultimate consequences. It just slid into law. It's really pretty amazing. No major editorials, no explanation of how it would be imposed, it was barely announced by the national governments who endorsed it. Only a few enlightened locals understand LA-21 requires a total reorganization of government systems. It eliminates individual rights in the free countries. National systems of political economy are subserviant to LA-21 laws.[/quote]

Cities such as L.A. and Toronto have been blessed with community oriented policing for years.

So you have a nifty little program, each division does what it wants to a degree, and units which work with the public. So if a target is getting followed it might change depending on which section they are walking through. Keep in mind that these people share information, and with the federal agencies merging with the lower agencies, the dirty tricks (Cointelpro) have been passed around and shared.

For my targeting I have had some fun.

With lawyers, I had one lawyer tell me that to send a letter off to get the targeting to stop, she would need for me to supply the name of the program, and who was in charge.

Another lawyer without me saying anything, asked if I had trouble finding a job, or getting an apartment. At the time I had not had trouble with apartments, but my job hunt had gone off. This lawyer was not with the firm that I contacted. The firm had to get an outside lawyer that they consult with for this type of case. That was one more adventure.

I also have spoken to loads of detectives, most saying that they have never heard of these tactics, then I talked to one, and he said that these were standard tactics and that any detective should be aware of them, they are standard tactics for police surveillance operations. (Hear that, he was under the impression that any detective should have known this, but why was he one of the few that acknowledged it?) So much like customer service and getting help, it depends on who you talk to. Shortly after this he calmed up and discontinued contact, but there are people out there who can help, but you have to get to them, before the state realises what you are doing or they will shut them down. Thus why I tell targets don't share you lawyers name etc. This is my opinion and you have to do what suits you.

I recently spoke to a community lawyer and asked about the violent persons registry, I phrased it as, you know if you get into a fight or argument and then get put on a list and followed around, like stores, etc, like a violent persons list or something. She knew what I meant, and asked if I found the info online? She also said at their location they did not handle that, but to try the lawyer referral service and see if they could help. Which is better than a few years ago, it's all about who you talk to, and referencing the violent persons registry might help as well, just to get some head way.

So much like customer service it's who you talk to, but then it's also trying to be stealthy, if you find someone who will help, try to do it in secret, cause they will get to that person and shut them down, clam them up, or they suddenly refuse to talk to you or assist you.

So to recap, with community policing each area does what it deems best, so yes you could have some areas more psychotic than others, it all depends. I think most are about the same to one degree, but just like some areas being allowed to have open sex in bars, some areas might be more human with how the targeting and monitoring is carried out. Small towns vs large, etc.

Also for the targeting to answer the question that I was asked, no they don't use the same tactics on each target, they try a bunch of things, then they see what you are sensitive to if anything and try to go from there. I just found out that my polite avoiding of their stupidity has been interpreted as a phobia or something so now they try to use crowding as a tactic. God sometimes they are so...

Anyways so there you have it I hope it helps. If you act sensitive to the color red, or they can get you to notice, then they will try to use more of the same till you are sensitized in a negative way. They want to keep the target captivated at all times. If you respond to any of their stimuli, that will be what is worked into your program. If they can get you with one, they will get you with another. I had one at the start of this, I worked with myself to get rid of it and I have never had another. If you are sensitized you can do this also and get rid of yours over time, by removing the negative associations, etc.

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Stop shooting messengers and face the truth

December 11, 2009

Stop shooting messengers and face the truth
Sometimes knowledge is uncomfortable. But it is the mark of a civilised society that we do not sweep it under the carpet

In 413BC a traveller sat down in a barber’s shop in Piraeus, the Athenian port, and readied himself for a shave. He commiserated with the locals for the loss of their recent military expedition to Syracuse. The horror dawned; the traveller was first with the news. The barber flung down his tools and ran to the city, crying the news. His reward? The Athenians refused to believe that their navy had been destroyed, that their sons and brothers were dead or working as slaves in Sicilian mines. As Plutarch tells us, the barber was “fastened to the wheel and racked”.

This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.

To quote Sophocles’ Antigone: “No one loves the messenger who brings bad news.” To misquote Corporal Jones: “We don’t like it up us.”

We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.

The article above is about crime in the U.K. but it could just as easily been about trying to get the truth out about Gang Stalking and the fact that people in most time periods do not like people who tell them the truth, or who preach something that goes against their orthodoxy. What I am learning about this time period is that it is no better, in fact it's worst, because unlike other times, we have so much wonderful and rich history to fall back on, and yet in many ways we are just as ignorant.

This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.

To quote Sophocles’ Antigone: “No one loves the messenger who brings bad news.” To misquote Corporal Jones: “We don’t like it up us.”


Sorry if the message is not what you want to hear, truth is a bitter pill to swallow at times. For me I loved my country, I thought I lived in the best place on earth (literally). It took me a really long time of grappling with the betrayal I felt to come to the semi-full realization of some truth. I don't think I have the full truth, I am not sure I could handle the full truth just yet, but I have tried to educate myself on some of the recent history, the stuff that the text book does not tell you, some of the not so hidden conspiracy, and it's one shock to the system after another.

Sometimes I get angry with people for being so stupid and gullible, for believing the best, but I was right there a few short years ago, and without my targeting, it would have taken me a very long time to believe anything bad about my country, or my fellow citizens. I always thought of us as the good guys, that we would never ever do what was done in East Germany or other places. I was so naive, so desperately wrong, luckily for me truth is easier to swallow when you have the burn marks, bruises, and psychological torture to show for it. Without this, I might still be trying to believe that my country was not doing anything bad. I might not have taken the time to research like I have, but I have now done this, and I have no intention of going back.

I don't hate my fellow citizens, I feel sorry for them, many of them likely think that they are doing something good, trying to be good citizens like I was taught to be, but I am lucky, I have seen the dark side and I know enough history to know that what is being done is wrong. Most importantly as a target, I have seen, experienced and read about cruelty like none other, and I am quite comfortable with how I feel.

I know for some this is hard to comprehend, some really are just there to try to make the society better, but if killing the innocent is how you are going to make the society better, you are wrong. I know many don't see it this way, the 15 to 30 minutes that they give seems like nothing and they might not see how their small roles could destroy lives, so with every story, revelation targets have tried to show you this. We have been trying to say, hey look we are innocent, in many cases good people, and something is wrong within the society cause it's destroying our lives. Many of us naively thought that this would be enough, but we were proven wrong time and again, and worst many started to realize the long term goal of this targeting is our destruction, how could you expect us to be ok with it?

Did you think this was Stalinist Russia? Did you think that we would agree that we were bad because the state said so? The state who does some of the most hypocritical, terroristic things? Not going to happen. Most of us are good people, we do not deserve this, and we are saying that a system that would destroy us, is a broken and corrupted system. I get that some do not see it that way, but I am sorry for you, because we see it, live it and feel it on a daily basis and it does destroy lives.

In trying to expose this, we are just doing what past targets have done, would you honestly expect anything less? Don't get upset if you have a harder time destroying our lives, it's not our jobs to make it easier for you to do so, and how silly would you have to be to think so?

The goal of these sites is to support each other, document the stories of targets, and to highlight the sad truth, which is that our countries are becoming a nation of informants, but also to show what has happened to other societies where this was allowed to happen. The saddest part I find in researching is that when these times are happening, people always feel justified, they believe the lies, and they become so brain washed that they can not see past the lies, they have to believe the lies. They tell themseles I was just following orders. I did it cause an authority figure told me to. Anything else would mean confronting the evils of their actions, the drunken power that corrupts consistently in every time period. The comradely in these times of evil that oppressors invariably feel towards one another.

History can teach a great deal, but it's words and facts, it is not hearts and minds, only by reaching hearts and minds can we hope to change things for the better and ensure a brighter future for ourselves and others. Believe it or not, we are not just fighting for ourselves, our main survival is key to be sure, but targets are also invariably fighting for others so that they do not have to go through and experience this horrible betrayal by the state.

I don't know what else can be said, there are some really wrong and horrific things happening, to not draw attention to that would be neglectful at best, but it would also be a betrayal in another way. I have more incentive ofcourse, but it's no less imperative for others to awaken to what is happening.

Also I tend to go on about us and them, us targets, those informants, but many many informants are or were targets who are broken, made to co-operate, forced, others who just gave in, and or others who were brought up this way and don't understand the big deal. Many don't do anything bad as far as they are aware. I don't mean to keep separating everything, it's really all one humanity, but as a target it's so easy if you have a target to say, they, those are the ones doing this, at times it's easy to forget that many of them suffered also, are suffering. I am sorry for that, but I do have my good days and bad days like everyone else.

Anyways I don't know what else there is to say.


We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.


Uncomfortable truths are not fun, I have come across so many, some posted, some just hard to take, but I have consistently adjusted my comfort level cause I would rather truth than lies. I know not everyone is the same, many are happy with lies, and half truths, or flat out denial, they can not handle the fact that there could be anything bad about the society. They would silence anyone who would say otherwise, but that's just not acceptable, because it must be said, and some of us are at the convenient place of saying it. When I say convenient, I don't mean easy, but it's something that needs to be done. No one is trying to make anyone feel bad, or ashamed, but I don't know how to make people feel good when the sad truth is that their actions might be helping to kill and harm innocent people. I can just point out the facts and hope that societies conscience will have enough left to do the rest. Oh and pray.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009



wesmont87 (12 hours ago)
[quote]You need to stop posting these hurtful videos and comments RIGHT NOW. It's scumbags like you that make it difficult for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS?? I have children, and I want their neighborhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!! I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail. [/quote]

Found the above comment on this youtube profile. Now keep in mind this might just have been some douchbag snitch trying to keep tabs and make their weekend monitoring go better. The profile page has no activity, videos watched ect.

Shy of laughing and wondering if wesmont87 has serious issues, let's break this down.

What hurtful videos? The ones that are there to help targets?

Next accusation making it difficult law abiding citizens to do their jobs. What jobs? (for citizen patrol groups to track targeted criminal subjects, monitor and inspect their homes, etc. )
Oh that job,the one that we like to call driving to suicide, false institutionalization, false imprisonment, and mass shooting, with some gaslighting and mobbing on the side. Oh that job. My bad.

Maybe I am just overly logical, but it is not the job of informants, deputized citizens, snitches what have you to enter homes, monitor or inspect them. Maybe your rule books say otherwise, but from my delusional world view of democracy and democratic countries, that's simply not right or legal.

The activities you mention fall into Cointelpro and Stasi type activities and should be exposed to the fullest extent of the law, maybe go back to your slave handler and check your rule books.

Also since you are monitoring and tracking these people how do you know they are criminals and that it's not just false information? What evidence do you have? Cause if they are such criminals, why does it take years to monitor individuals and not just months?

The next accusation.

{Where do you get off insulting these brave men and women who are TRUE PATRIOTS}

Actually there is no getting off on this stuff, what a lack of imagination you have. It is however in the best interest of myself and other target to call evil for what it is. What is happening now is beyond vigilantism, it's murder in many cases, forced suicide in others, it's unjust victimization, and if you think calling the evil for what it is as insulting true patriots you have another thing coming. True Patriots, true citizens would be right here with me trying to expose this very evil that is trying to destroy the democracy that their ancestors worked so hard for. True Patriots would be the first in line to say that we will not stand for such unjust actions, that would be the voice of true patriots and they would be right here with me, not on the side of evil, which is the side that you are on, wither you choose to see it or not.

Next thing to ponder this person has kids. God help our kind if these kids grow up with the same mentality, if by taking away the freedom of others and destroying innocent lives, if this is how you choose to secure a future for your children, you are going about it the wrong way. The only future you will ensure for them is enslavement, such as the former East Germany. A future where free thought and speech are not allowed. If this is how you envision a safer world for your kids, you have a lot more imagining to do, or you have ever low goals.

{I have children, and I want their neighbourhood to be safe for kids and decent folk from antisocial creeps like YOU!!}

Also you know what, Gang Stalking targets have kids, many who have had to watch their kids be tortured and burnt, screaming out in pain. Ramona Lopez says her grandchild has been chipped, others have kids where they have almost killed their kids, by doing such fun things as putting water in diabetic medication. Many others would like to have kids, and families, but as long as psychopathic people like you exist they will not be able to.

Next bit from this person.

{I hope the police find you for posting this crap and let you rot in jail.}

At the rate these countries are going, this might happen in time, but while there is still freedom, there are still officers that do not agree with this garbage, I know this for a fact, they want this out as well.

So to get this straight, the country and future this person wants is a non democratic future, where dissenting idea, or unjust practices are allowed, and innocent people get jailed for pointing it out. Luckily there are still many in the world that do not think this way, and who understand that by destroying the freedom of one, you will eventually destroy the freedom of others.

Unfortunately from my research this sort almost proves to be incapable of understanding such simple truths, such simple facts. This was the case in Nazi Germany, destroy those people over there to ensure that our Fatherland is secure, and they too went about it with impunity, much to the detriment of those targeted.

Come to Stasi Germany same thing, they believed the lies of the state, they did what this person claims to be doing now, destroyed innocent lives, followed the innocent around, made sure they were disinfranchized and swore they were doing the just thing.

Come Cointelpro, same thing, those evil radicals, John Lennon, panthers, the same things, same justifications, more lives destroyed, everyone at the time thinking that their actions were just. However history has pointed the finger, tried all three time periods and labelled each as evil. We are taught to never let such things happen again, yet here we are doing a repete, and if this comment is real, hearing the same lame justifications as before, while innocent men, women and children have their lives decimated.

You and yours are the reason me and my kind can not stop, you are the reason we must continue to fight to see this new wall broken down, this new Cointelpro (the same one, different day.) exposed, and yes this unjust evil must never be allowed to happen again. TRUE PATRIOTS you will head the call, you will hear me and you will work with me, so that this evil future that is envisioned by some, where the innocent are destroyed in this way, does not happen. You will do everything that you can to see this evil time like the rest lands where it belongs, and you will help me in trying to right these wrongs. This is the side that true patriots would be on.

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Government Backdoor

See screen caps at link above.

Does the government have a back door to the internet? I have posted before about strange happenings, but here is something that should be of interest.

I posted a comment at TMZ using my normal email address, the confirmation email did not arrive. I found it strange. So I created a different email address and posted a comment on a different article.

That email confirmation arrived. So it could just be that something was wrong with my original email right? So to test the theory, I created a second account with a different user name, and posted a bubble (meaningless comment) comment. For the bubble comment and different user name, I immediately received the following email. Portions have been edited, but you get the general gist.

(Please activate your comments by clicking this URL:

The comments below will be added to the post titled )

So I got an email confirmation and password, which would allow me to post comments without any need for more email confirmations. I then went back to post my original comment that had a bit more substance, using the password and email, and it does not post. Remember I now have a password, and email, but my original comment is not posting.

So the question is do those that are doing the monitoring have a secret back door to the Internet that allows such things to happen? I think it could be more simple than that. Is there a way to prevent emails from arriving that a hacker could do? Cause I and many targets have seen emails not arrive, but in this case, my original did not arrive, the second did, and the third did not. I usually have better things to do, but I think I can somewhat prove this, ofcourse in typical fashion, after posting this, watch a billion comment show up on TMZ.

It’s not that far off a question considering that the military created the internet, why would they not have backdoors? Even if this specific situation is not caused by a government backdoor, is it not reasonable to assume that they have one?

If they do not have backdoors, then what can they do?

So to test out the theory further I created a third account, using the same mail company where the second email did arrive and lo and behold the email just like with the first email, same user name did not arrive.

I created a different user for the comment. This shows deliberate interference and I think this should make a rational person wonder, just a little bit if something odd is ongoing.

Now only is the comment being prevented from being posted, but emails are being prevented in this case.

So what happens to the emails? see in the first case, you could just assume that the email did not arrive, but the second email with the another company did, but the third email which was created using the first comment, with the second email company did not arrive.

The only difference with the emails is that one comment had a reference to Gangstalking and the other comment did not. Comment two which was a test comment was just a bubble comment, and it make it through.

I don’t think this is happening at TMZ’s side, cause I have seen this before on too many websites. This might be the closest that I have come to proving this. I believe it’s happening at the local end and the idiots doing the monitoring are responsible. So is there a hack that can do this? If so what? What is the work around?

If they need to block emails that badly, then that’s a good thing. It shows that they are scared of this being exposed, and I think this means we are doing better, than expected. Sure getting illegally blocked is not fun, but this can work in our favor.

If we continue to do what we are doing, then I think we can get this exposed.

Lastly when did google mail start requiring a sms phone confirmation for new emails? I have never seen this before.

What happens if there users don’t have a mobile or choose not to send? Can they still create an account in google. I have never seen this before, and would love some feedback from others.

I just checked and it typical make the target look crazy and discredit them, the postings are all there.

Except for a couple of things. Because I used the never signed up at TMZ option for my first email, I should have gotten a response in my in box and did not. So I contacted the site saying, hey I did not get my confirmation email. That was at 3:57 and up until I made this post, none of my comment were on that site, except for the bubble comment, which did not appear up until 4:31 and that was because I finally got an email in the second email account I created. Yet when I go back to this site, I can see comments from myself at 3:51 pm, which were my original comments. So how did the original comments post without the required email verification?

Let me recap. I posted a comment at 3:51 or there abouts. It did not post. No email was received. I tried it again, and nothing. I contacted the site at 3:57 and got their auto responder. Shortly after I created a second account, and posted a bubble comment just for the hell of it. That made it through right away after clicking on the confirmation email, plus another email giving me a user name and password. Subsequently I went went back to post and again nothing happened.

Yet now all the comments are showing. This is typical, trying to discredit the target, but I took the screen caps, which I find help a great deal.

The auto responder from 3:57. At this stage none of my comments where showing up on their site. So I emailed them to say hey what the heck, my comments are not showing.

My original comments are now showing. Those comments that I never received a confirmation email for, which were not showing up at the time of this posting, but are now fully there.

I also have a screen cap of my bubble comment which did post right away at 4:31 Pm on another article.

So were the comments just not showing from my end? A resonable explanation, but then why could I see the bubble comment and not the rest? Where are the missing emails? Why are all the posted comments now showing, about 6 of them in total, which just looks like spam now, but they were not showing at the time. Keep in mind that other comments were posting and those showed up just fine.

It’s a small thing, but sometimes it’s proving the small things that will help you prove the larger things. I by no means thing this is definitive proof, but it should make you go hum?

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