Red Pill Blue Pill

Ever wish you could go back and do it all over again?

With Gang Stalking, knowing what it is, do you ever wish that you could go back and do it all over again?

Knowing what it is now, if you had to go back and do it all over again, which one would you take, the red pill or the blue pill?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6qG4yn-Ps


Would you really want to know the truth? Would you rather live in ignorance?

Most people think that they want to know the truth, that they can handle the truth, but the reality is often that they can't. I tend to have a good handle on myself. Since the Gang Stalking thing began, I realise that there are some truths, that I want to know, need to know, but can't always handle, so time has pass, so that I can handle the truth.

I think for me however, all in all, I would want to know the truth. No matter how bad it was, I would want to know the truth, cause I am usually not happy with lies, or knowing that there is something just out of my reach that I just can not grasp.

Knowing the truth is not always an easy thing, sometimes it can even be a life altering or life destroying thing, but I often think if it does not kill you, it only makes you stronger.

Many learnt the truth about Gang Stalking and many have survived and some even lived to see even more bizarre things come in their lives.

Now if anyone had had access to my thoughts before or just when I found out about the Gang Stalking thing, I am sure they might have thought me really mentally off balance. The things that go through your mind, or your thoughts are not necessarily how you would react externally to a situation. The mind is there to help you absorb and understand information, and it will not, and should not take on more than it is ready for. At times you might want to give yourself a swift kick int he butt, or a slap back to reality, but at other times what you need is a gentle reassuring hung that says it's going to be ok, and that you can mentally get through it all.

Even when I realised what was going on, there are so many times, that I slipped back to denial, disbelief, doubt, wanting it to be something easy, something simple, something that could be sorted out really quickly. Most targets are like this, we hope that the conspiracy is not real, that it's not true, but the ones who stand a better chance of survival in short order, come to quickly realize that it is true, and our cities are these little mini Stasi villas.

The true is capable of leaving you completely shocked, floored, numb, but eventually you have to overcome those states and move on, most people can do this with enough time, but what if time is of the essence? What is you don't have that time, then what? How do you recover from a deep shock to the system, hit the ground, and continue running, to ensure your survival and maybe the survival of others? You just have to try to find a way, to rally that strength and come about in short order.

I like to think that with the Gang Stalking thing, I have been able to do that to a small degree. Some see this a being radical, or extreme, some might even see it as being infamous, I don't mind a bit of infamy, it keeps the label of boring at bay, you can't be infamous and boring, I don't think. Do I see myself as any of those things? I just see myself as fighting for my survival, trying to research and find out the truth about something that was happening to me. Something that most people around me were lying about, no matter how much I suspected the truth that they were lying, that something was going on, the conspiracy continued, and then suddenly one day, I came across a portion of the truth, and as you can see it would be over time, with lots of research, that most of the rest presented itself.

I now look back and think, if I had known what I know now, would I have wanted to know the truth? If I knew my normal world as I knew it was going to end, and this lovely strange thing called Gang Stalking would become a large part of my reality, would I have wanted that? I don't know, but I do know that if I had not gone after the truth, if I had ignored my instincts and left things as they were, I likely would not have survived. The trappings that they have successfully set for so many other targets, would likely have devoured me, and I am not sure where I would be, but I am here, I have survived this far, and I have found out a great deal of truth about this creepy system, and the kinds of people that are created within this kind of system.

With anything that you are going through, my suggestion is to give yourself some time to let the shock, trauma disbelief settle in, take the time you need, but in some cases you can not take too much time, because the next situation is at hand, and then next, and the next, and the one after that. If life was not bad enough, parasitic individuals are specifically assigned to targets, to ensure that these situation happen in our life, more than they should. Creepy, but truth.

Anyways at the end of the day, I would want to know the truth. It took me close to two years daily going, I just can't believe that this is happening, you have my blog posts to back this up, and eventually it did settle in, I got past it, and most days, I can act pretty nonchalant. The staged accidents the informants try to set up, you learn to avoid those. Being aware that anything you say, or do, can be used to list you as mentally unstable, you learn to be cautious in that capacity. As a target you learn to shield in your home, and do what you can to try to ensure that the physical torture that is being remotely inflicted is minimal. Many keep writing their stories, hoping someone will listen, I recommend praying, it's the only force, that I truly trust, that has worked over the last several years.

Faith it does not always come easy, and some days it may not come at all, but you have to keep with it. The days before I found out what was happening, I remember well how people were happy to lie, pretend that nothing was going on, it took a lot of faith to hold on to the belief that I knew that something was going on, for a time I had me to confirm things with, and none else, but I held firm, and at the end of the day I was right. My suspicions were correct, some around me were indeed betraying me in the sense that they knew, and had not said anything. Many around me were lying, set up's were happening, things were being done deliberately, and for a time, I was the only sounding board that I could use. It's hard under those conditions. Most people have trusted individual around them, that they can rely on, some are not so fortunate, and are their own sounding boards at times, till others can be found, or evidence can be gathered.

So to the other targets out there, now that you have some idea, or hopefully have some idea of what is happening, which pill would you rather take? The Red pill or the Blue Pill?

I should add that I think a lot of people in this world take the blue pill, it makes life easier, it's denial, it works, and that is why the world keep going like it is, I don't blame them for preferring the Blue Pill, but for me I still prefer the Red Pill of truth at the end of the day, even though it might take me a while to get there.

Truth

Truth

Maybe people don't have truth, because they are not willing to fight for the truth. I have spent the last several years researching Gang Stalking, and finally coming to what I think is close enough to the truth, to put a name on what is happening.

Usually in a society when a truth is revealed, and a wrong is uncovered such as what has been happening to targets, other elements would come forward to support this initiative, to further help support the truth that is uncovered, and to help right the wrongs that are being done. You see this with stories about executions that are happening in wars zones, or civilians that are being illegally killed or murdered. The little that society can do in these cases they do. They discuss it, they talk about it, the media prints articles, and though it does not fix what is wrong, it does not make it right, at least the injustice is exposed.

I have also been trying to expose an injustice for the last several years, with varying degrees of success. Eg. I find that some forums, some communities are more open and familiar with the idea and the concept. I find that on others forums, they are less familiar with the concept, and the more mainstream they are, they frantically rush to try to deny the truth, delete the truth, or close down the truth. I see a controlled society and controlled people everyday. I see the slaves of the system, tightening the chains that bind them everyday, making sure those chains are more secure, and with those chains any chances of their freedom.

Throughout time people have come along and presented truth, usually with varying degrees of success. Some are killed for telling the truth, others jailed, some socially annexed, only to have those same people be praised later on when society is ready for the truths that they were telling in their time period. When society is not ready for the truth, it can be a very slow process for changes, but change can happen.

At one point America thought that owning slaves was a natural thing to do, now in today's society many people would think that human slavery is wrong. At one point in history many Germans thought they were doing the right thing for the fatherland by gathering up their neighbours, informing on them, and sending them out of the community, Germany in many ways has reflected on that time and decided it was wrong, but at the time, you would have been in the minority had you pointed out any differently, or been called a sympathizer. Germany would also again reflect on the Stasi era, and again many Germans would come to view that time period as a bad time in German history, although many others will never view their actions as wrong, and will never have any remorse for what happened during that time period. The same is true for the American McCarthyism, and Cointelpro periods, yet at the time while these events were happening, had you tried to speak out against them, you would again have been in the minority, or even been called a sympathizer.

What history has shown me is that during those time periods, people often collectively believe in the rightness of those actions. Those who disagree, or speakout due to conscience often share the same fate as those they try to help, but for some it's the only choice. This was apparent during the internment of the Japanese, and recently with the deportation of thousands upon thousands of middle eastern Americans and their children, with 9/11 terrorism as the justification. It's a continuous cycle that each generation goes through. Each must once again learn and reflect on the lessons from the past. Each must make the same mistakes, come to the same consensus, and then take corrective actions. This type of consensus usually takes years, and depending on how deep the scare on the human psyche was it can even take decades to heal, or for that truth to come to light. During those dark periods, unspeakable acts often occur, at the time the society often feel that these actions are justified, and are what they need to do to protect themselves. They gladly sacrifice freedom for a false sense of security and are willing to do the same or worst to others. From the inside this seems very sane very rational, when viewed from the outside this collective insanity is often viewed quite differently, but it is what it is.

Change is often a very slow and painful process, what has to happen when a society has been deeply conditioned is that the elements in that society that were conditioned have to become irrelevant and a new generation with a different mentality has to take it's place. Some societies can change in mid stream, this did happen to a degree in South Africa, with Apartheid and the attitudes that perpetuated it, but again change if often very slow, and can take years.

With Gang Stalking, I am trying to streamline the process as much as possible. Concepts such as mobbing and bullying, took a decade or more to finally become implanted in society. Where talking about mobbing was seen as a fringe subject, it's now mainstream. Where targets of mobbing were thought to be mentally having a breakdown or ill, it's now commonly recognized that this practice is wrong, and the targets are even winning lawsuits in courts of law. Exposure and awareness is happening for Gang Stalking as well, but it's still remains a very slow process. Unlike the other forms of systemic harassment, this form of harassment has the seal of approval from the state, and thus getting this exposed within society is going to be a much more involved process. There are legal aspects to consider, some people may want to speak out, but might feel socially as well as legally pressured not to. This has to change. The same sorts of unacceptable outcomes are happening to targets of Gang Stalking that happen to targets of bullying, mobbing. The process is working much like the Stasi system did in Germany or the Cointelpro system did in America and that is unacceptable.

I believe that change happens when people are ready for that change to happen, when they have had enough and they say enough is enough. When they storm the bastille in France, or the German embassy and take down the wall. I know in Germany this process took 40 years or more for people to finally reclaim what was theirs and to this day, the scares of that time period remain. Chance can be slow and painful, especially when it's something that is systemic and something that is ingrained in each generation. Truth can come to light however, it did with the exposure of the abuses that were happening within the Catholic Church. After years of silence, truth finally came to light, but at the sacrifice of the victims and so many of their supporters. 20 years ago, suggesting a priest had committed such an offence, would likely have resulted in being annexed from society, now today it's common knowledge that such does happen, and it's openly discussed. Part of the conspiracy of silence has been exposed. The same can happen with Gang Stalking and this system, but people have to want it to.

The information is there, the truth is out there, you can point to it, discuss it, link to it, but what I can't do for you is make you free to use it. You have to want that in your own time period. You have to want that freedom, and do something to earn it. People are just not as willing today as they were 40 to 50 years ago. We are as usual happy to have others go to war for freedoms. Most are willing to have others sacrifice, so that they can stay free. Many talk a good talk, but never follow it through with any actions. Many have tried to point the way to freedom, and fallen by the wayside for their efforts. As long as the slavery and the chains that bind are more comfortable, or seem more secure than the need to fight for freedom, and to expose the system that is binding, then this system will remain. As long as people are just comfortable enough, then all efforts will be in vain, and that is not fair, and that is not right. I think there is a point where you do what you can for others, but at some point those people that you are fighting for have to do something for themselves. Freedom is a choice, even if it's just in your mind.

This is the way that it's always been done, and thus it continues, but if for some reason, the way things have been done, no longer works, then I encourage you to think about making a change. Small changes here and there, but take some ownership, some responsibility, be an agent of the change that you want. Till then I grow tied of hearing about outside elements that are keeping others enslaved. Do I think other factors exist, yes, but I think one of the biggest factors are the people at ground level, and their willingness to go along with what is happening. Till it get's uncomfortable enough, people will not change. I find that the groups most willing to accept these ideas and to discuss them, are the groups at the farthest fringes of society. Maybe it's because these groups that are excluded from society, or not considered to be mainstream, have felt the chains of oppression a little more than others? Will change only then happen when others feel the same levels of oppression? Is this just a continuous cycle that human society goes through in every time period? Is this just something that each generation must continually relearn, or can they see the truth, before the final chain of oppression closes in? I don't have the answer to these questions. History can teach a lot, but I have to believe that each time period has to answer for it's own unique actions. Has to be accountable for it's own choices and decisions. History can guide, and be a great teacher, but only if people are willing to learn those lessons, or appreciate what has gone before.

Till then there is hope. Hope that society will wake up, take a look at it's actions, the system that it's a part of and decide if it's time for change, or decide that that system is really working, and that they want it to continue. In effect, change can happen, but only if you want it to happen, when the time is right for that change to happen. When the whisper of one, becomes the scream of many. Till then there will just be this void, this silence, knowing that something is terribly wrong with this system, but being willing to do little about it. Till then I remain prayerful and hopeful, but I am also a realist, and I do know what human history is like.

What on earth did I get myself into?

It all depends on who you ask, and how you interpret the situation. Sometimes the answer is blowing in the wind.

I had such a moment a few weeks ago on some level, and at first my only thought was how do I untangle myself, but the more I watched and waited for the punchline, the punchline never came. Where I was on some level was surprisingly where I was meant to be. It really started to work for me, and much to my complete surprise, really lifted my spirits.

Now upon realising that I was in a good place, the usual control agents have done just about everything to try to change or destroy that.

This week has been a challenge, but I am trying to find that peace and happy I knew just a few short weeks ago.

I find that when you are in the right place, you can not let specific negative elements allow you to be brought low.

I think the question of what on earth did I get myself into at times has to be answered in spirit for truth, but in flesh for accuracy, cause otherwise it's just too easy to get the lines of communications mixed up, or cluttered with a lot of inaccurate information.

I think targets ask this question a lot, but much like the disinformation that is out there about us, some information can only be clarified by going to or getting at the source.

http://www.1brickcourt.com/files/cases/140CLIFT_58136.pdf

Stop shooting messengers and face the truth

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6952298.ece

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December 11, 2009

Stop shooting messengers and face the truth
Sometimes knowledge is uncomfortable. But it is the mark of a civilised society that we do not sweep it under the carpet

In 413BC a traveller sat down in a barber’s shop in Piraeus, the Athenian port, and readied himself for a shave. He commiserated with the locals for the loss of their recent military expedition to Syracuse. The horror dawned; the traveller was first with the news. The barber flung down his tools and ran to the city, crying the news. His reward? The Athenians refused to believe that their navy had been destroyed, that their sons and brothers were dead or working as slaves in Sicilian mines. As Plutarch tells us, the barber was “fastened to the wheel and racked”.

This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.

To quote Sophocles’ Antigone: “No one loves the messenger who brings bad news.” To misquote Corporal Jones: “We don’t like it up us.”

We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.

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The article above is about crime in the U.K. but it could just as easily been about trying to get the truth out about Gang Stalking and the fact that people in most time periods do not like people who tell them the truth, or who preach something that goes against their orthodoxy. What I am learning about this time period is that it is no better, in fact it's worst, because unlike other times, we have so much wonderful and rich history to fall back on, and yet in many ways we are just as ignorant.

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This is how we so often treat those who tell us the truth we do not want to hear. History is littered with examples of messengers being shot, tortured and pilloried, literally and metaphorically.

To quote Sophocles’ Antigone: “No one loves the messenger who brings bad news.” To misquote Corporal Jones: “We don’t like it up us.”

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Sorry if the message is not what you want to hear, truth is a bitter pill to swallow at times. For me I loved my country, I thought I lived in the best place on earth (literally). It took me a really long time of grappling with the betrayal I felt to come to the semi-full realization of some truth. I don't think I have the full truth, I am not sure I could handle the full truth just yet, but I have tried to educate myself on some of the recent history, the stuff that the text book does not tell you, some of the not so hidden conspiracy, and it's one shock to the system after another.

Sometimes I get angry with people for being so stupid and gullible, for believing the best, but I was right there a few short years ago, and without my targeting, it would have taken me a very long time to believe anything bad about my country, or my fellow citizens. I always thought of us as the good guys, that we would never ever do what was done in East Germany or other places. I was so naive, so desperately wrong, luckily for me truth is easier to swallow when you have the burn marks, bruises, and psychological torture to show for it. Without this, I might still be trying to believe that my country was not doing anything bad. I might not have taken the time to research like I have, but I have now done this, and I have no intention of going back.

I don't hate my fellow citizens, I feel sorry for them, many of them likely think that they are doing something good, trying to be good citizens like I was taught to be, but I am lucky, I have seen the dark side and I know enough history to know that what is being done is wrong. Most importantly as a target, I have seen, experienced and read about cruelty like none other, and I am quite comfortable with how I feel.

I know for some this is hard to comprehend, some really are just there to try to make the society better, but if killing the innocent is how you are going to make the society better, you are wrong. I know many don't see it this way, the 15 to 30 minutes that they give seems like nothing and they might not see how their small roles could destroy lives, so with every story, revelation targets have tried to show you this. We have been trying to say, hey look we are innocent, in many cases good people, and something is wrong within the society cause it's destroying our lives. Many of us naively thought that this would be enough, but we were proven wrong time and again, and worst many started to realize the long term goal of this targeting is our destruction, how could you expect us to be ok with it?

Did you think this was Stalinist Russia? Did you think that we would agree that we were bad because the state said so? The state who does some of the most hypocritical, terroristic things? Not going to happen. Most of us are good people, we do not deserve this, and we are saying that a system that would destroy us, is a broken and corrupted system. I get that some do not see it that way, but I am sorry for you, because we see it, live it and feel it on a daily basis and it does destroy lives.

In trying to expose this, we are just doing what past targets have done, would you honestly expect anything less? Don't get upset if you have a harder time destroying our lives, it's not our jobs to make it easier for you to do so, and how silly would you have to be to think so?

The goal of these sites is to support each other, document the stories of targets, and to highlight the sad truth, which is that our countries are becoming a nation of informants, but also to show what has happened to other societies where this was allowed to happen. The saddest part I find in researching is that when these times are happening, people always feel justified, they believe the lies, and they become so brain washed that they can not see past the lies, they have to believe the lies. They tell themseles I was just following orders. I did it cause an authority figure told me to. Anything else would mean confronting the evils of their actions, the drunken power that corrupts consistently in every time period. The comradely in these times of evil that oppressors invariably feel towards one another.

History can teach a great deal, but it's words and facts, it is not hearts and minds, only by reaching hearts and minds can we hope to change things for the better and ensure a brighter future for ourselves and others. Believe it or not, we are not just fighting for ourselves, our main survival is key to be sure, but targets are also invariably fighting for others so that they do not have to go through and experience this horrible betrayal by the state.

I don't know what else can be said, there are some really wrong and horrific things happening, to not draw attention to that would be neglectful at best, but it would also be a betrayal in another way. I have more incentive ofcourse, but it's no less imperative for others to awaken to what is happening.

Also I tend to go on about us and them, us targets, those informants, but many many informants are or were targets who are broken, made to co-operate, forced, others who just gave in, and or others who were brought up this way and don't understand the big deal. Many don't do anything bad as far as they are aware. I don't mean to keep separating everything, it's really all one humanity, but as a target it's so easy if you have a target to say, they, those are the ones doing this, at times it's easy to forget that many of them suffered also, are suffering. I am sorry for that, but I do have my good days and bad days like everyone else.

Anyways I don't know what else there is to say.

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We assume that we are different from our forefathers; more tolerant and more willing to allow uncomfortable truths to be aired. We have a liberal democracy and we congratulate ourselves on a commitment to freedom of speech. Yet when the truth sits uncomfortably with our notions of what is right, when it clashes with our dearly held notions of tolerance, we are as squeamish as any of our ancestors. Few are as intolerant as the self-consciously tolerant.

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Uncomfortable truths are not fun, I have come across so many, some posted, some just hard to take, but I have consistently adjusted my comfort level cause I would rather truth than lies. I know not everyone is the same, many are happy with lies, and half truths, or flat out denial, they can not handle the fact that there could be anything bad about the society. They would silence anyone who would say otherwise, but that's just not acceptable, because it must be said, and some of us are at the convenient place of saying it. When I say convenient, I don't mean easy, but it's something that needs to be done. No one is trying to make anyone feel bad, or ashamed, but I don't know how to make people feel good when the sad truth is that their actions might be helping to kill and harm innocent people. I can just point out the facts and hope that societies conscience will have enough left to do the rest. Oh and pray.

Open Secrets

Open Secret. That's what Gang Stalking is. Many know about what is going on, and many are simply willing to keep the secret. Don't get me wrong there are people in society who have no idea that the society is like this, but for others it's a big open secret.

I learnt a lot about open secrets. Sometimes you keep them to protect yourself, mostly you might keep it to protect others, or in some cases to protect an organization or even a society. Other times the secret might be kept because the society, or organization is in denial.

It made me think about why people keep secrets, sometimes it's to protect another, they worry about the consequences should the secret come out. Others because it might affect the system that supports them. Sometimes it's to protect themselves, because they kept the secret too long, or they fear the consequences.

I thought about the priest that were doing these deeds to children. Many of these men were prominent, people trusted them, they liked them, looked to them for moral guidance, for a sense of community, for a sense of what made them who they are. To find out what you believed to be true as really false has to be a shock. Denial is a stage that people also go through, to deal with the shock but then also to protect themselves from the truth. They often might not want to hurt the perpetrator, they realise that exposing the perpetrator might bring down their cause, society etc. Like those preachers who had affairs on their wives, when you get caught doing the opposite of what you preach it can be a hard thing.

The actions of others have the capacity to shake foundations, and I think that is in part what is at the heart of the reason many keep quite about things like this in society. They don't want to rock the boat. They don't know who to turn to, or who to trust.

So the secret remains, in the open where you can see it, but silence where it's not openly discussed, maybe whispered about, hinted at, but never fully brought to light. The secret infects the society and each finds different ways to deal with what is, or what has happened.

Some go crazy from the secrets they keep, some get into drugs and alcohol, some find other ways to self medicate, others end up with a case of total denial and thus memory block. Others do what they can to bring the secrets to light in the open where they belong, so that others can have a look and so that the community can start to heal.

Secrets are not an easy thing for a society to have to keep and deal with. Long term (dirty) secrets, or even just regular secrets can be very bad for a societies morals, such as some to the events of Vietnam, like the Mai Li Massacare that were initially hushed up, and coverd for many years.

Since doing research into this, I have a better idea of why people keep secrets, what they stand to loose by exposing the secret, and the moral and social consequences, that secrets can have, and how they can affect a society. I like delving into worlds of knowledge, but sometimes what you find, you can't, won't, shouldn't, or don't feel like shareing, much like secrets. So they remain open like a sore, visible for most to see if they know what they are looking for, yet everyone dances around the issue instead of facing it head on.

Gang Stalking, just one more big open secret to add to everyone else's. Only time will tell the true impact such a secret will have on the psyche of his society.

Wickedness in high places.

How many have seen these pictures?

http://www.dailyillusions.com/2007/11/08/young-woman-vs-old-woman-double-image-illusion/

Do you see an old woman or do you see a young woman? Do you see either of the two? Do you see anything?

Everyone sees something different. Some see the whole picture, some see one or the other, some see nothing, and no matter what you do, it will continue to be that way. What you have to understand is that the world and our targeting is no different.

There are some legit people who refuse to see anything at all. Then there are those who choose to see nothing but mental illness. There are others who know something is going on but choose to see vigilantes or organised stalkers. Then there are others who see Gang Stalking and that the government is doing it, but think we can get it fixed with legislation. then there are those who see the whole picture, the whole corrupted beauty of it all, and realise this is a systemic problem and so systemic solutions must be found.

This system did not happen over night, they spent generations getting the world to be the way it is. This system has shown that it consistently works to keep people in line, time and time again. I have pointed this out before, but let me point this out again. We are up against a system, and if you don't get this, then you can not realistically fix what is wrong.

http://www.targetedindividuals.com/System.html

[quote]Many people grow up in society never realising that the world is not really controlled by just governments but it's also controlled by a system. Some people might consider this system similar to another government that operates outside of the mainstream government. The system is more structured and less democratic than many of us realise, or are willing to believe.

The system that really exists and that controls society is really made up of the powerful and elite, Corporations and Governments. The powerful elite, do not care who is in government, because they will always have the primary say with how things go, and what the final outcome is. The same has become true for corporations, and powerful interests. Then there is the will of the government, the body that appears to be elected by the people, but who is there to really serve the will of these powerful interests.

To keep the system in place and running smoothly, there are appendages that are set in place to teach the population how to act, think, behave, and yes how to conform to the system. The system wants people to come up thinking that they are completely free and can act, think, and feel however they choose to. This is true to an extent, as long as your interest do not run too contrary to what the system has in mind. Once your interest start to run contrary, or you do something to step out of what the system considers acceptable boundaries, that is when you enter the Targeted Individual zone. [/quote]

Be it pedophile rings, the CIA drug running, it will not change till people realise this is systemic and address the issues from that stand point. Beyond that you will just go around in circles and this will never change.

Even when things do get exposed, please read about what happens.

Ours is not the first big scandal to be exposed, or uncovered. If you do the follow up you will see that Gary Webb who exposed the CIA selling drugs in minority communities was falsely discredited by his own media counterparts. He was moved to some crappy job he hated, he ended up quitting. His life from there took a downturn, but he was still speaking out, he published a book about the CIA selling drugs, and he was rumored to be starting another book. However he ended up with a bullet to the brain, an apparent suicide, many will attest that he was not suicidal, others will tell you differently.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1230244889

[quote]Indeed, some of the writers in Buzzsaw say that, before their own experiences, they were among the scoffers. Webb writes, "If we had met five years ago, you wouldn't have found a more staunch defender of the newspaper industry than me ... I was winning awards, getting raises, lecturing college classes, appearing on TV shows, and judging journalism contests. So how could I possibly agree with people like Noam Chomsky and Ben Bagdikian, who were claiming the system didn't work, that it was steered by powerful special interests and corporations, and existed to protect the power elite?"

But, like most of the contributors to "Into the Buzzsaw," he did his job too well and the powers that be hurled him onto the other side of the looking glass. "And then I wrote some stories that made me realize how sadly misplaced my bliss had been," he writes. "The reason I'd enjoyed such smooth sailing for so long hadn't been, as I'd assumed, because I was careful and diligent and good at my job ... The truth was that, in all those years, I hadn't written anything important enough to suppress." [/quote]

Gary Webb died for trying to expose this story. Instead of being supported, he was let down, and the end result is the same. If he had been supported, the truth come of come to light.
I am not trying to discourage anyone, but you have to wake up, just a little bit.
Here is a link to the series that Gary Webb wrote.

The Dark Alliance. http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/webb.html

There were protests in the streets when his story came out, for a moment he was a hero for the people, till they in traditional fashion turned on him. Well I should say he was not supported the way he should have been.

The lawyer Anita Bell who took the case of these people, ended up being targeted, she almost died, and fled to Canada, she lost her refuge claim, fled with her family to Israel, and I don't know what happened to her after this.

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Social/article.php?sid=69

[quote]Anita E. Belle, a black female practicing law in Florida, alleged that COINTELPRO reared its ugly head against her after she filed cases on behalf of blacks and whites in seven states harmed due to the Central Intelligence Agency or CIAs role in importing illegal drugs into black communities. She alleged that at least one reputed CIA agent admitted the agency conspired with organized crime to use illegal drugs as a means of pharmaceutically enslaving African-Americans. In early 2000, five of her seven cases were consolidated as the Nicaraguan Contras
Narcotics Trafficking Litigation, MDL 1331, in the federal court in Gainesville, Florida.

Belle claims that the cases became so sabotaged that she and her family were forced to flee Florida in fear of their lives. She first moved to North Carolina, but left there after witnesses in the CIA cases were threatened. She then returned to her hometown of Detroit, Michigan.
Belle recalled the Iran-Contra scandal that plagued the presidencies of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush. During the 2000 Florida election debacle, Belle made a Freedom of Information (FOIA) request to the FBI for the criminal records of the former president and his sons, Florida governor Jeb Bush and presidential candidate/Texas governor George W. Bush. The FBI denied her FOIA request on privacy grounds. Belle then sued the FBI, arguing that the federal criminal records of public officials should not be protected by privacy, else Americans may unwittingly elect organized crimelords who will undermine the integrity of the government. Meanwhile, Belle claims the retaliation against her and her family continued in Detroit to such an extent that she added COINTELPRO allegations to her case against the FBI.

Belle alleged the Florida Bar was a co-conspirator with the FBI in the agencys COINTELPRO activities, accusing the Florida Bar of disbarring her so as to discredit her and halt her suits against the federal government. She alleged that the Florida Bars investigator on her disbarment case, Bill Freeh, was a retired FBI agent and a close relative of Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI at that time.[/quote]

Most traces of her and references of her that I could find, I am no longer able to find or locate on the Internet. Next senator DeCamp, he tried to help uncover the fact that young boys were being used for sex, and to help transport drugs. The victims were bulled, jailed, suicides, etc. The case was delayed, and finally one low level drug dealer was convicted. The rest, the accused, all powerful, all rich, they advanced in their careers. The victims suffered, and the perpetrators advanced. The lesson is, this was all done to protect the system. But then Senator Decamp asks himself, when do we know if the system itself has become corrupt? I think the true targets in the Targeted Individual community should know this answer, and if you don't, you should look into it.

http://gangstalkingworld.com/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1205712268http://educate-yourself.org/cn/franklincoverupexcerpt.shtml

[quote]Now I think I do understand the Franklin case. I know, now, that all the public officials involved in Franklin-whether they ever heard of Billy Budd or not-fully understood what they were doing.

And what they all have done, and will continue to do in this case, Franklin, and no doubt many others like it, is this: Protect the "system" at all costs. The "system" is the only ultimate sacred cow-not any particular law or constitution, but only "the system." Because, ultimately, it is the system which makes certain that the individuals functioning within it - from judges to lawyers, to prosecutors, to politicians, to businessmen - have their places and positions, and opportunities and pecking order, and future.

And, though it is unfortunate, that on occasion the protection of the "system" requires the deliberate sacrifice of perfectly innocent people, that is hoped overall to be the exception rather than the rule. But without the "system" . .

But then I have one final, nagging question. How do I know when, or if, the "system" itself has become so corrupted, that evil is the rule, rather than the exception? And when that occurs, what do I do about it? But I think I know the answer to that one - my oId commanding officer in Vietnam told me what I had to do. I made some promises to Bill, and I intend to keep them.
John DeCamp [/quote]


Also one of the whistle blowers for this, she is a targeted individual, her video is on YouTube.
Here is here website. http://www.oneagleswingsfearnoevil.com/

So you see all the people who tried to expose this, and the victims, one set of circumstances, and the rest another. Then we have priest who are molesting kids, a lot of those early victims who exposed it did not fair well, others who tried to expose things along this line, also did not fair well.

http://www.projecttruth2.com/
http://www.theinquiry.ca/

The system at all levels protects the corrupted, those committing the crimes, and the good suffer, and we often suffer, because those who could help sit back and do nothing.
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing"-Albert Einstein.

It's always the same, and unless it's addressed at this level nothing will change, and even if tomorrow someone took it upon themselves to do a real story about Gang Stalking, about what is happening, we would probably, get the same sick results. You might get the shock and awe, and a few fake targets, maybe even a few real targets on shows and radio, but then it would go back to being a none issue.

As some of you can see, there is an effort to make this look like it's not systemic, like it's not being done at a governmental level, and efforts to keep you misinformed, and to make sure the true nature of this does not get exposed. This has to be fought at the correct level, and the systemic issues must be addressed.

I can only put the information out there, and much like that picture at the begining of this post, people are going to see what they are going to see, and interpret things the way they want to interpret things. Some will see nothing, some will see part of the truth, some will see all of the truth. I can only put out the information, people have to figure out the rest for themselves.


Ephesians 6:12 “We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Paranoid disruptions. Active Denials.

Active denial. A game the government likes to play. See this is how it works. If you let them mess with your life, then your life get's disrupted to the stage where you can not function. If you do nothing about it, they will just keep it up, and go further and further.

When a target starts to hit back and show them for what they are and what they are doing, then they will in some cases back off, but they will try to make the target look like they don't know what they are talking about. Go after the targets credibility. Make the target look crazy. What we don't know what you are talking about. We weren't running any interference. It's just paranoia.

They used these same mechanisums with targets of Cointelpro, they do these things that are so hard to believe, that most people would rather accept that the target is paranoid, vs being deliberately targeted and having their lives disrupted in such a manner.

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote/j._edgar_hoover_quote_4fb0

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."

Ok so I have been following up on the uploads.com thing. So I finally heard back from them. They want me to resubmit the ebook details, in a different format, that's fine, but when you look at the ticket submitted you can see my first submission, and none of my follow up emails. So where are they? Whey did they not arrive? This again suggests that subsequent emails did not get through, cause the ticket was not updated. Anyways I will keep you updated on this.

The blog comment not posting, that I blogged about I went back and it posted. The previous times the browser had gone though, but there was no message that your message has posted, and it would go back to the same screen. Now when I tried it this time. I got a nice pop up form and it says the message is being queued for review. Had I not blogged about it, I might still be there trying to get it to post, and repeated attempts might be failing. I say this, because this has in some cases been consistantly happening, the webpro news postings being one example.

Drawing attention to the dirty that they are doing is still in many cases the most effective way to get it exposed and in some cases stopped, but then you have to be careful because then it puts you in a situation of walking a fine line of looking paranoid if you blog about each single incident, vs unspeakable life disruptions.

For me it's been not just emails about ebooks that are not getting posted, it's business emails that are not arriving. Feedback that I need, etc. This would not be the first time business has been interfared with. It's a part of their M.O.

Another example was right after those articles came out late last year in the papers about Gang Stalking. The Gang Stalking World website stopped getting emails. People's emails just stopped arriving, or if they did arrive, they would be delayed for hours or days.

I tested the system out myself, cause you want to be sure that you are not being paranoid. What I did was I sent in emails from the contact form to see if the mail would go through. What was interesting was mail that I sent that had spam titles from the contact form made it through right away. Other mail I sent that seemed or had titles that were something legit or pertinent just did not go through. It was fascinating to watch. What kind of filter can do that?

Anyways walking the fine line. Either drawing attention to the dirty and putting up with the life disruptions, or blogging about it and exposing it. It might leave you looking paranoid, but it's the only method right now that I have seen that has any effect. Just document every thing as best as you can.

Like I said, the bounced emails, lack of feedback, and business mail not arriving has been about 80%, where before it was not this volume for failed email that is not arriving. The emails are failing on public as well as private email systems, and various email boxes, and accounts.

So again I do think the best weapons we do have are exposure, and some legal means if we can find them. They will cross the line as much as they can, till you push them back. (I don't mean that literally, although getting their asses kicked could not hurt, but I mean it figuratively.)
The part that still amazes me is that we are in this modern society, we have so much interaction and places where massive amounts of information can be shared, yet this stuff still goes on, primarily in silence and that can not be allowed to happen.

I mean this system has consistently been in place, at the very least it needs to be exposed publicly for what it is, no I don't think it will stop it, but at least when people talk about it, they will stand a chance. Again conspiracies like this are nothing new. Priest got away with sexually assaulting thousands of young children for years, decades, and the problems were consistently covered up by the church, victims families, and in some cases the victims themselves, because of the stigma attached back then to accusing the church of stuff like that, but when the truth came out, it was something to behold.

Most of the stuff that targets have been talking about like the 24/7 surveillance has been getting exposed. The Nasa whistleblower was kind enough to share that fact that "NSA Surveillance Far Vaster Than Admitted; Targeted Regular Citizens and Journalists."

http://www.slate.com/id/2134398/
http://crooksandliars.com/node/25423

Anyways this really does still seem to be the only effective weapon thus far, exposure on a wider scale and awareness. Keep taking out the newspaper ads, maybe we should raise money for some bus ads? They would not likely post them, but this might be what we have to do. If you do hand out flyer's, be careful. They could try to use this against you. It's a fine line we walk, between getting what's happening to us exposed, and them trying to lock targets away for telling the truth about their harassment's. I never understand why people think programs such as MK
Ultra, and government experimentation go away? They don't. The Tuskegee syphilis experiment would probably be going on right now if not for one person, and again remember that went all the way to the top with the surgeon generals approval, for 50 years.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762136.html

Again it went on with so many people in the know, but few with the ethical conscience to stop it, or who wanted to stop it, and the majority who were aware of the experiment felt they were a part of something good, scientific.

These governments have a log history of this stuff. Helping survivors of the holocaust with one hand, but then getting the Nazi scientists who conducted experiments into democratic countries with the other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

[quote]Operation Paperclip (also Project Paperclip) was the code name for the 1945 Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency[1] O.S.S.[citation needed] recruitment of scientists from Nazi Germany to the U.S. after Victory in Europe Day.[2][/quote]

It amazes me that something that is so systemically inherent can still be so hushed up, and then you dare to call yourselves democratic. That's the thing that astounds me. This stuff went on in East Germany and we spit at them for doing this to their citizens, and Cursed Russia for what they did to their citizens by locking them away, but we are doing the same things. These things have always amazed me.

There is a time for everything though, and there is a time for this to come out into the open.