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Monday, July 05, 2010

Do we want to win?

Do we want to win?

I was watching the news the other day and a reporter asked a question. He wanted to know if the war in Afganistan was winnable? Can we win, and he was told we could win, if we made it into a home game. Meaning don't treat it as an away game, make it into a home game. I was watching that clip, and thinking, Wolf Blitzer is asking the wrong question. The question is not can we win, the question should be, do we want to win?

For me that answer is no, not at any cost. Not because I am a defeatist, not because I want the other team to win, but because I am a realist and I know the price that winning is likely to be too high. Not at the continued loss of life of the troops, not at the continued loss of moral, and democratic freedoms that I see being eroded in these democratic countries. The economic cost of the war is also not great, the monies being spent to secure these victories, could have secured a hundred small victories for those in need at home. Feeding the poor, helping the sick and homeless, but instead those monies are put into the war machines. I personally believe that that price is too high.

Do the people want to win this war? I don't think they care to, I think what concerns the people most is getting the troops home, that's what they really want. I don't think they care if it's a home game, away game, or whatever. There is no victory when the cost is so high for both sides, and the cost has been high. Not just financially, but in freedoms.

These wars began with the premises that if we don't go in there and don't destroy the enemy on their turf, they will destroy us. I include the U.K., Canada, and all the other allied countries in this. The problem is that Iraq was not invaded due to the 9/11 terror scare. It was very much invaded on the false premise that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, which was false, but regardless, he is gone, some troops are still there, the situation is still messy, and though battles can be fought and won, the question with the remaining war is do the people want to win?

The last time I checked the American election was won not based on can we win, but it was won on the promises of we will end this war. We will get the troops home. That is where the hearts and minds of the American people were, it was not on can we secure a victory in some far away land. The other factor is not even if a victory can be secured in some far away land, because while that battle is being fought far away, the war at home is being lost. It is being lost in freedoms and liberties. These wars were supposedly fought to secure freedoms, but if you look at these democratic countries several years later it's hard to recognize some of the freedoms that are supposedly being fought for, when these countries are starting to resemble mini fascists states in various ways. It makes no sense to secure a victory abroad, if freedoms are lost at home.

Is the other side going to benefit from this great war? Are we really securing freedom for these people? Do these people really want these occupying forces in their land? Looking at the Iraq war, things were not great under Saddam Hussein, but several years later have things truly been made better in the long run? When all is said and done, the people have been brutalized, their spirits were broken, the women raped, children tortured, civilians killed, lives destroyed. Out of this sick and sin, they have been infected with an informant network, which will destroy the internal character of their country, the way it is destroying the internal character of these countries, and will the end results be worth it? Will the ends really justify the means, there or at home in these democratic countries?

Do the people really want to win? Soldiers are coming home from these wars, and getting into conflicts with these militarized police forces that have sprung up, they are coming back to cities that they don't always recognize. I have read of a few different cases where men who have served abroad came home, only to be brutalized, humiliated, or killed by some of the newly militarized forces at home. Is this truly what they are off fighting for? There is no victory, there is no win, if the freedoms that are supposedly being fought for are evaporated. We can win, but at what price, and at the end of the day, do we want to win?

Iraq is being rebuilt. From this great sick and sin a great city will be spawned, but will the price have been worth it? Someday the great city of Babylon will be rebuilt and rebirthed, if rumours are correct. Will the loses be worth a true victory?

When WWII was being fought, the danger was real for many people. They knew that if the Germanic forces were not stopped, they might well lose their way of life. The threat and danger was very real for people in the U.K., and in other nations. The war was coming to those shores and if victory was not won, the way of life would change. During that time, people were engaged, the objectives were clear, and the threat was very real, and securing the victory was the only option.

Today people are not as engaged as they were in many ways. Most kids care more about their Xbox 360 than if this war will be won. Some people are so far removed from this war, that they probably have trouble remembering that there is war ongoing. The world has changed, people's views, values and perspectives have changed, and today, I am not sure that the question is can we win? I think the question today is do we want to win?

http://157.166.255.31/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/29/sitroom.02.html

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/war_on_terror_update

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/19/iraq.topstories3

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1907831,00.html

http://icasualties.org/iraq/index.aspx

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/05/us/05list.html

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Wednesday, April 21, 2010

Democracy

I am feeling that Democracy has failed in some way. Here I am, being targeted and in some ways demonized by the very democratic society and government appendeges that I trusted to protect my freedoms.

In my specific circumstances, lashing out via civil disobedience would not be a good thing. As a target I have to be extremly cognizant of how my actions will be interpreted. As a target I am aware that my actions, words, thoughts, are being scrutinized. At times they will be wrongly interpreted. What might not raise an eyebrow under normal conditions changes due to this listing/flagging. It means that handing out flyers or pamphlets in one circumstance would not draw any attention, in other the exact same actions would be interpreted as a sign of mental illness, or a disturbance to the safety of those around you. This is the kind of stuff targets have to be aware of. The very flagging in of itself without you doing anything can turn regular benign actions into these informants interpreting them in many paranoid and incorrect ways, that could affect your life.


Remember as a part of this flagging/listing we often have incidents staged to make us look as if we are a danger to society, or unsafe. No matter how many times I have pointed this out, it never fails that people consistantly believe the worst without question. It takes such a unique and special person to see past the lies, but that sort is all too often in short supply. The worst at times are those close to you. Remember you often don't have to be present, or involved in an incident, an informant can just make something up and that is enough to keep this targeting going, to keep your flagging going. Remember this was used with Jiverly Wong to help with the rumours lie and slander, that even followed him into death. Remember this is about money, the more people they have liste flagged, or that they can justify flagging, and monitoring the better it is for them. Most people will probably not want to beleive this, but that's is the truth.

Remember that they purposely try to systemically destroy our lives by making it almost impossible for us to earn an income, then if we fail to pay bills, rent, car payments, because they have limited, or restricted our ability to be self sufficient, it's then interpreted as a sign of mental illness. Where the truth is people are deliberatly going behind your back, and pulling strings to destroy your life. This will never be seen in the official interpretations, and proving that this is what is being done is almost impossible for most targets, yet we all report the same things. Life disruptions and interfarences.

It's nice to talk about democracy and how great it is, and how it protects freedoms, but what about when it's being used to destroy freedoms? what do you do then? Do you sit back silently and smile, and criticize the system, but in a way that won't upset it's little feelings? Not if you are me, if you are doing something unjust to me, most cases you will hear about it and not in a pleasent way. That is a sane and human reaction, and unless you are a watered down sheeple, most normal sane people are going to get angry about things that are unjust.

Someone like me should never have been singled out this way, but I was. Someone like me should never have had to spend the last four years getting tortured on a daily basis, but I have been, and it's completely unacceptable. Explaining electronic harassment to someone who has not been targeted by it for 8 hours straight, 24 hrs straight, or days on end is almost impossible to do. Other targets however understand this very well, and at times have talked about this very eloquently. This type of targeting is almost impossible to explain in a credible fashion.

Remember that in addition to heating up the skin, causing the skin to peel in some cases, due to the sorts of burns it causes, or causing blisters, etc, it's physically is torture. It's not like getting hit with an object because you then have the bruses to show as proof.

Yet targets often have to live with this type of targeting on a daily basis. No one to turn to, no one to cry out to, no one to care, and why? Cause in our democratic and none democratic countries alike, people determined that we did not have the same rights, and that it was ok to slander our reputations, to flag and mark us, which left us continual and perpetual targets of various communities, without even the courtesy of a warning so that we could protect ourselves. This is how democracy has worked for me and many others, and what I am saying, have been saying, and will continue to say is that this is not right. If my speach is forceful at times, try walking a week, month, year in my shoes, much less the years I have spent dealing with this. I already know most people could not. This wonderful democratic system decided that it was ok to underhandedly allow others to abuse our rights. These so called citizen informants were given a license to ill, but unlike pedophiles and serial killers who at least get notification that the communities that they are in will be notified, most of us did not even get that kind of courtesy, and we have been treated worst than many of them, cause most of us had no idea why we were being targeted, or why it was allowed to contine without any help or assistance. Yet the people who put these warning marker systems in place had to know or have some idea of the systemic destruction that would be heaped upon individuals with these markers, and thus why it's being used on whistle-blowers, minorities, single women, etc. What a sweet way to silence and destroy someone. All these human rights agencies must by now have some inclining, but still most targets could not find help.


When targets get angry, which is sane and rational under such circumstances, our rights are often further subduded even further. Our justifiable anger is used to paint us as potentially dangerous. Try having your life desrupted in this way, systemically destroyed till it's almost impossible to function and see if you would not get angry too.

People do get upset, and often for good reasons. Many of the men and women in the Gang Stalking community are being demonized, many of them are being tortured via electronic means, many are being falsely commited, put in jail, losing jobs, livelyhoods, many are innocent.

Remember this is not just something that goes on for a few months and then stops like being put on trail, this is something that goes on for years, and while it does, people that were in good jobs, go financially bankrupt, unable to take care of themselves and their families. They watch their kids getting tortured. Some of the women in our community are sexually assulted, with no one to believe them if they go to the police. What kind of democratic country does that to it's own citizens?

I think the saying he who feels it knows it can best be applied here. I think most people who have never expreienced the kind of systemic destruction can not fully understand what targets go through. This is little paper cuts daily. One in and of itself is nothing, but the continued actions over time are designed to break down the targets and leave them with no form of support, no way to support themselves, prove their innocence, and many of us are left to ask, where is democracy? How are we suppose to fight and protect it, when it's failed us so very badly? We are suppose to obstain from saying bad things, and doing bad things, but then we are suppose to sit back daily and be demonized, disinfranchized, and in other cases driven to other extremes.

http://www.indigoribbon.com/Quilt/

In body I am reminded all too easily of the evils of this world. I don't see conspiracy cause I want to, I see conspiracy cause I am living it. Before this I truly believed that governments were there to protect the rights and freedoms of it's citizens, that things like this only happened in none democratic countries, but over a decade of workplace mobbing, Gang Stalking, and Systemic distruction, being deliberate disinfranchizement, has made me a believer.
There is something really wrong going on in these countries, something undemocratic. I have tried to write about it, blog about it and research it all in a peaceful manner. Hopeing that those so called wonderful organizations set up to guard human rights and freedoms would step up to the plate and do what they are suppose to do, they have not. It's shown me that the rights and freedoms of some citizens in these countries matter more than others.

What's happening to targets is probably something some politician will appologise for in years to come. They will come up with some appology, something along the lines of "what we did at the time was wrong, it violated the human rights of these individuals, and we are sorry," but future sorry's if we even get that, will not cut it. sorry does no good. Not for the men, women and children who are being targeted in this manner right now, by something that is highly systemic and structured. I will say it again, I don't see conspiracy because I want to, I see it because I am living it. When I read about the dirty tricks done to others under programs such as Cointelpro, a lot of those dirty tricks are being applied at a local level and that is just not right. That is not suppose to happen in these democratic countries, but it is. This system is not working for some. It's not right to say the system works, when people are disinfranchized to the edges of these systems, and put in situations where they would like to fight back, but find it almost impossible to do so, because their lives are deliberatly being disrupted. People understand systemic racism, so why should understanding systemic targeting be so hard to do?

Most of us would like to do the democratic thing, and if we had millions of dollars, we could do what John Lennon did when the system came after him, we could fight back the democratic way and win. As it stands, because of the billion and one disinfo agents online who spent years leading targets in all sorts of directions but the real one, most of us are tired physically, spent emotionally, and financially doing what we can to look after the basics. The nice thing is that I now hear other voices of dissatisfaction, people who are not targets but who feel let down by the system, who feel just as exhausted physically, emotionally spent, who are also trying to take care of their basic needs. Their voice are being heard now too, and they are expressing a great deal of dissatisfaction with these democratic systems, saying that they are just not working. Somewhere along the line the system also stopped working for them, and yes they are looking closer at government, allegances that keep people like them disinfranchised, and realizing that things might not be as fair and democractic as they too were once lead to believe. They too are starting to see conspiracy, cause when you understand how the system is working, how can you not?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aaIuE.W8RAuU

[quote]Secret Banking Cabal Emerges From AIG Shadows: David Reilly [/quote]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/apr/18/goldman-sachs-regulators-civil-charges

[quote]Now we know the truth. The financial meltdown wasn’t a mistake – it was a con

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The conspiracies that were once laughed at, are now being taken seriously by the mainstream, see once their lives start to be affected by it, it's a different story, now they are taking seriously what many had been saying for years.

Those legitimate voices of dissent are coming to the surface, but instead of being listened to and understood, they are being demonized, but unlike us, they at least get to hear what is being said about them.


I agree that people should take caution with how they act, what they say, even what they think at times, you never know who is watching, listening, or reading minds. On the other hand people are angry and anger that is bottled up needs a proper release. I agree that violence is not the right way to go, but people need to understand that when you disinfranchise the citizenry, when they do have a voice, or when they see deep injustices in a system that they trusted, this is a channel that some of them are going to gravitate towards. I still preach a non violent approch to resoluion, becuase my targeting has taught me why many of those who have gone before did not choose a path of violence, the state is violent and in many cases choosing such a path, will be dealt with swiftly and brutally and destroy the freedoms of others.

Many can not do what I do, blogging and writing patiently hopeing to get the right sort of attention, while my life is systemically destroyed, there are many who just can not and will not choose this path. We have seen this in America's history with their revolution, and the Frech as well, people will try to work within the system for as long as they can, and I encourage it, but when that system will not work with them, when it breaks their backs and spirits what are they to do? They have formed a tea party? I think that can be a good thing if the energy is channelled in a good way, but right now people are making them look bad, and I think the positive energy that got that movement started will be overshadowed by the bad press, which is a shame. Cause if this movement is suppressed, then smaller movements will likely spring up, and it's hard to know which direction those movements will head in.

Everyone wants democracy, I encourage people to work for it, but would ask otherst to walk a mile of understanding in the shoes of those that are being let down by these democratic systems, if you are not experiencing what it's like, you might not be able to understand where these people are coming from, there legitimate voices of dissent. There is a gap that exists for the have's and the have not's, how the system works for those with, is very different than how it works for those without. People are realising this and starting to ask why, yes it's going to make people uncomfortable, but it's better in some ways for that anger to come to the surface on forums and the like than being supressed. I also agree that at this time, it's well for those online to try to remember to be as responsible as we can. Many doing the monitoring are paranoid and innocent things that we say, are interpreted in extreme ways. Eg. I have observed that every time I would mention a specific extremist site online, I would spend about 48 hrs offline being deeply observed, and followed around in a specific manner. The people doing the monitoring are paranoid, and when dealing with the paranoid, you have to watch what you say, I take the same appoach when dealing with many of the citizen informants. Many are sane rational people trying to get through the day, many others are unhinged, and some others are following a specific agenda which is to set targets up, simply be aware and on your guard. I don't think it's a bad think to give a timely reminder for people to be aware of what is being said.

We have the right to be angry, but let's remember that we have to be careful how that anger is channelled, and try to manage our responses. Most times we type, hit send and don't think how people might be interpreting our words. On our forums 9/11 and conspiracy speaches are common, but to many others they immediately interpret this type of chatter as a danger, something to be managed or dealth with in an extreme way. It's good that we all be cognizant of that.

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Saturday, August 15, 2009

Terry Tremaine

The reason that this post caught my eye is due to the fact that he sounds like he might be a Targeted Individual.

Now after reading some of Mr Tremaine's postings, I can honestly say that I don't agree with his views and opinions. In a democratic society however you do have the right to voice your opinions, within reason. (There are exceptions to every rule however. Eg. M.B.N.L.A.)
What caught my eye about him is this.

http://freedominion.com.pa/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=121827&sid=37eb834eaaecbb64c99ef7df2ff1b11a

[quote]The Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC) has maintained a campaign of suppression against its political opponents under the guise of promoting 'human rights'. In my case they have pursued me from place to place, arranged for me to get fired from various jobs between 2005 and now, smeared my name in the media, had my bank accounts canceled, and even threatened employers with adverse media publicity unless they fired me. Such is the status of 'human rights' and the 'rule of law' under this current regime. If we had a genuine rule of law in Canada there would be a treason investigation concerning how entire agencies of the Canadian government have been co-opted in the interests of a foreign power, The Zionist Entity in Palestine (Israel).[/quote]

Now his postings would be something that a lot of average people would not agree with, but does he have the right to make his postings? Well he was set up by an infiltrator, a Mr Warman who then decided to sue him using the CHRC Complaint process.

After he was sued, he says he was fired from his job, then he moved and according to the above
quote, he was slandered, pursued from place to place, etc. I did some follow up research and found out that he became depressed and suicidal, he checked himself into a mental hospital, and then renounced his postings. When he got out he revoked his apology for his previous postings, and then stayed off the Internet, till he made the above post and was re-arrested for it, and is now in jail.

I am going to try to stay away from personal opinions etc, the fact is, if he is a target, then his case might shed some light on the Stasi like system that is happening in Canada. If a clear link can be made between what happened to him and the CHRC, then it might be something that Targeted Individuals can use in Canada to show correlation between the government and the things targeted individuals are experiencing and these investigations.

In his case, we know why his harassment started, and in his opinion he sets a clear stage for correlation of his harassment and the CHRC.

[quote]In Canada and elsewhere the phrase 'human rights' is taking on the unbearable stench of tyranny. This regime is attempting to replace our God-given and inalienable rights of free speech, free assembly, and self-defense with United Nations -style 'human rights' which can be granted with one hand and taken away with the other.[/quote]

He makes makes some points about the United Nations system which if you look into Agenda 21 is happening right now.

[quote]When the CHRC began attacking me I went into a downward spiral eventually reaching the point where I became suicidal and had to seek treatment for severe depression. At some point I decided to start fighting back and have been doing so ever since. I emphasize that at present the tools of our struggle are words and persuasion.[/quote]

I wanted more details about the specifics, but don't have enough to make a full assessment, but my early instinct is he went through what many of us call the Gang Stalking process. His is just a better case, because if it can be used to show that the state is employing these tactics, then maybe targets in Canada could use this in court, to prove their harassment, maybe not, don't know, but it's why this story was important.

I am not going to lie, for the average person even his defence is going to contain some unplaptable racial overtones that many will find unacceptable, and maybe even assume he deserved his fate, but since Canada is suppose to be a free country, and claims democracy, then this case should be a concern on those grounds, though I realise separating the lines will not come easy for most, I had a hard time with his postings that I tried to research.

http://canadianroguegallery.blogspot.com/2009/04/terry-tremaine.html

He seems to miss the bigger picture, that this is about all of us, white, black, Asian, Indian, this is about humanity, and what is happening with him is a small microcosm of the greater picture and the bigger agenda.

This prosecution did not begin with him, it's been ongoing since the first immigrants sent foot on Canadian, American soil, it's about control and squashing dissidence and it always has been.
I wish that he had tuned into the bigger picture, this is happening to male, female, black, white, Asian, Indian, in his case, the persecution started for something very overt, and opinions some might not agree with, but for many others the same type of persecution happened for reasons they are not aware of. What people have to understand is that what affects one, affects another.
When I went looking for answers about the civil rights, and the panthers, and why more leaders had not risen in this time period, it's because many of those leaders are in jail, destroyed before they even had a chance to rise. When I researched I found a deliberate system that had been implemented to destroy ethnic communities, with drugs, music, and social influences. The war on drugs was not what I thought it was, and society is nothing like what I first believed.
People need to become aware of this, we have one fate, us the little people against a system that has big plans for us, a dumbed down, submissive population, that will eventually be microchipped.

People are being conditioned for this every day, they are addicted to being followed around on twitter, sharing personal details on facebook, and another thousand little ways they are being socialized to give up their privacy, and to think it's acceptable to live in a big brother society. A society that is being socialized to accept 1984 conditions, George Orwell knew what was coming, and it's more clear as time goes on.

Yesterday I saw this graffiti "We sleep, they live" I was filled with joy. I think people are starting to wake up.http://100777.com/theylive

The only problem is that we seem to wake up in waves, and I believe the governments are planning for when we wake up in one big wave. I believe people will have no idea what they are up against.

Anyways back to Terry Tremaine, I think if he does turn out to be a Targeted Individual and it can be shown that the same tactics that were employed against other targets were employed against him, then it will be one of the first times we can show clear correlation with a government entity and the kind of stalking, and Stasi style harassment many of us have experienced. Our free society are becoming more communistic daily, and the Informant system is in place, there is always an informant system in place before these take overs can take place, and that part of the agenda from where I am, and what I can see is set.

People are waking up, but it's not fast enough, and the problem with waking up is that people do it in their own time. I remember waking up everyday and going I can't believe the world is like this, it took over a year before acceptance came. Even now it's hard, but I have had years now, you have read my blog, so you know.

For the average target, many of them want to believe it's just some vigilante gang doing this, they want to believe the lie, because the truth is just so terrible to behold. Or they want to believe it's rouge citizens and that they will be brought to jail, but in the case of Mr Tremaine, if a clear correlation can be shown between his harassment, and government and state involvement, then it might give targets in Canada a chance.

Here are some more articles about his case, again Mr Tremaine or rather his views, are not what many will be able to understand, or approve of, but the bottom line is, the state is using it's powers to destroy lives, and that is not a good thing in a democratic country.

http://www.leaderpost.com/technology/Terrence+Cecil+Tremaine+accused+breaching+condition+release+posting+messages+Internet/1871062/story.html

http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/cafe/index.php/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=55

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