The US vs John Lennon

I was really surprised after watching this movie. I know about the Beatles, and then I knew some things about John and Yoko Ono, but I had no idea about the full extent of his harassment by the US government.

This was a really eye opening movie. During my research into Gang Stalking I realised that John Lennon was just one more person who had complained about some of the things that Gang Stalking targets complain about. Wire taps, harassment, being followed around in public overtly by strangers, but I had no idea how much he was harassed.

I mean you think that he was famous, rich, etc and so he could avoid these problems, but that's so far from the truth. When you watch this movie, it's nothing like that, and the movie really humanizes him.

Apparently he became a real anti-war activist during the Vietnam war. That time period is a lot like this one except people protested back then, and we still protest now, but not as much. Music was allowed to have an influence, and now if you read the book "the covert war on rock," it does not have that same chance that it once did.

He fought to stay in the US for 5 years. Apparently his very simple and innocent anti-war stance upset then president Nixon and he got the political machine in gear against Lennon and sought to destroy him. Like this machine constantly does, it looks for vulnerabilities and came up with an immigration rap. Sounds familiar. They were really trying to kick him out of the country for 5 years of his life. Finally he got fed up and he sued them. His lawyer thought that he didn't have a chance in hell, but he was able to prove presidential interference in his affairs.

Then the Watergate scandal broke, Nixon resigned, and then him and Yoko and Sean had a semi normal family life, then he was assassinated.

The movie is pretty self explanatory and it matches the pattern that has been seen before. It's really eye opening, because you think that people like Britney Spears, and other stars would be untouchable to things like this, but this just shows that they are not.

In many ways they are average and vulnerable like the rest of the population. I think we know that on some level, but this movie really put things into perspective.

Here are a couple of quotes from the movie that I found interesting. There are a few more, but these were interesting to me.

{One more thing about John Lennon, it seems off topic, but he reported that he saw a flying saucer, sounds out there, but in reading about other events that have been under surveillance, there was also another report of flying sauces over a rally that was most likely under surveillance, where they reported the same thing. He thought it was a something positive at the time, but it's just something interesting to note.}

Direct quote from the movie.

"His activities were being monitored. He says that he thinks that they wanted him to notice. He was scared paranoid."

"He believed all of his telephone conversations were being monitored.
He believed that he was being followed around New York City.
He believed that friends that he had thought were friends were secret Informants for different intelligence communities. "

"Another effect of the Sinclair thing was it probably further alerted the FBI, John Mitchell, Holdermin, ?, and Nixon that something needed to be done to neutralize John Lennon. "

"When it gets down to having to use violence then you are playing the systems games. The establishment irritates you, pull your beard and flick your face to make you fight, because once they have you violent then they know how to handle you. "

It's interesting that Markus Wolf takes credit for perfecting the concept of the Romeo Spy, but even as far as back then, it was not above the American government to implement the same techniques. Just a thought.

Anyways the movie is really good. The music in the movie really shows his progress as an artist. I understand a lot more about him now, and it's a real eye opener. It shows that things did not change that much, they in fact seem to just have expanded the techniques and methods to others. It really puts things into perspective. At times when watching the movie, you could not help but juxtaposition what was happening in this era with the wars from that time period, Vietnam and Cambodia and anti-war movement, just interesting.

http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Social/article.php?sid=161

I had forgotten this, but even back then there was governmental cooperation, between Canada and the US in regards to spying on citizens. Along with the FBI, the RCMP in Canada were also spying on John Lennon.

[quote]The RCMP advised U.S. officials the radio programming was intended to help promote the planned Mosport event. The Mounties noted the venue had been vetoed by the Ontario Municipal Board and "at the present time it is not certain whether the 'festival' will proceed at some other location."

The ambitious musical event collapsed under the weight of organizational disputes.
Lennon's rabble-rousing activism of the early 1970s drew the attention of the FBI, which like the RCMP spied on numerous left-wing individuals and groups suspected of subversion.
A memo to the FBI director, noting enclosure of the RCMP correspondence, carries the subject line, "New Left - Foreign influence - Canada."

The FBI records were released under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act in response to a request from California history professor Jon Wiener, who waged a long legal fight for disclosure. Some material in the FBI file remains classified. attention. [/quote]

Maybe all these countries did was invite more players to the game with their community policing programs and anti terror laws. The movie is worthwhile watching.

Leaders

Someone asked me recently why aren't there any good leaders left?

It was a simple enough question. I could have given a simple mundane answer and then moved on, but I didn't. Being me, it was an opportunity to talk about the real reasons there are no really good leaders left.

I have been thinking about this a lot. I mean a lot of people are counting on political leaders to save the day. Obama being the most recent.

I had to turn to programs that have been designed to remove such leaders from society.
http://cointelpro2.com/
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/FBI/Lessons_COINTELPRO.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2007/02/354278.shtml
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointelpro/cointel.htm

See some years ago, such leaders did rise up, and they rose up in seemingly greeter abundance than now. They had their faults, they were no different than the leaders of this time period, but the struggles and challenges were a lot more defined for many of them. The oppression was open and overt and for many despite humble beginnings, they went out and started to make a difference for many in their communities that were struggling and oppressed.

We literally have a society that at one time had Native, Black, puertorican, White, etc leaders. People who were charismatic, good orators, people who could lead a resistance. Many were just young people who saw the open oppression of their various peoples, and how were they dealt with? They were jailed, killed, murdered, framed, discredited, on the run, targeted in every single way imaginable, till their were few left, or they did not have the resource to move forward with those movements. They were also targeted from within by Snitches/Confidential Informants who's only job it was to ruin the organisation, and often these people these snitches were the ones who rose in power in those same organizations they sought to destroy.

What happens now in this time period is that many of those groups of people are still targeted, but it's done in far more subtle ways, many people don't even realise there is a struggle that continues. Most are not aware of this. They grow up in society being taught about how bad things were, and repressive, and about the leader of that time period, but what they are not taught is that things are still as repressive, just in much more subtle ways.

http://www.csudh.edu/univadv/idh0101/Profiling0101.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/201456

The bonds are still on the hands. Just not as openly. The leaders that they are fed or often hand picked by the state, and will be the ones that conform to what the state wants and needs, anyone who goes outside of that will quickly be disbanded. These groups are not taught, but soon come to realise that they are being targeted in schools by zero tolerance programs. At work by subtle social discrimination, and in the community at large, with the media, the police, and it's still institutionalised discrimination, just not as openly, but still just as oppressive. The worst part is many people believe that they are fully free, you are not. Don't get me wrong, we can have freedom or the concept of freedom in our minds and must continue to choose to do so.

The potential leaders of this time period often don't even realise there is a struggle, this goes for ever race, gender and creed. Black, white, Mexican, Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, Male, Female, etc. Many have no idea that we are all trapped in a system that is rapidly moving towards enslaving us. It's crazy, but it's true.
http://thehiddenevil.com/

The other problem with leaders is the system often promotes those that they think will fall in line. Those who like rewards, and promotions, those children who can't see past their own egos, and flourish because they know how to do what the state wants them to. You can see this in an examination of who get's targeted and the why's.
http://www.bullyeq.com/bol/workbully/bully.htm#Why

Long ago society learnt how to strangle, choke, repress, and deal with leaders, when they do rise from the ashes of oppression, we are often amazed, but do we protect them? Do we help them? Do we defend them? You would think so, but often we use them, we take what they are willing to give, and then we desert them in their hours of need. It's not a pretty story being a leader. We like them, because they make our lives easier, we don't have to do the work. Someone else can save the world. They can, but why should they have to have? I have seen so many stories of whistle-blower destroyed, when we should be celebrating them in the streets.

We each have the potential in us to do some good, and I think we must strive to do so as much as possible. I get emails all the time wondering why more isn't being done, and I am sympathetic, because I think and wonder the same thing, but then I also look back and think, if this information had been there for me two years ago, I would have been so much further along in life.

I would have know what I was up against. I would have known that my co-workers were being asked to provoke me daily to losing jobs, or getting angry, or trying to make me look crazy. I would have known about intimate infiltrations, and what to look for. My answers about family and their involvement would have been answered. I would have known that they were also being asked, forced whatever into taking part.

Awareness of what was happening would have helped. It would have been good to know that we are up against a system, a system that has endless resources that they can, and will use against a single target to bring then down to heal. Yes they will put up entire construction projects to create noise and disturbances, yes they do have cities full of Citizen Informants that can and will follow you around and try to provoke you daily. Yes they can electronically monitor you and torture you in your home. Yes the fire trucks and airplanes will be used, yes the police, fire-persons, etc are all in on it.

Having that knowledge two years ago, and a few trusted sites would have helped a lot. I didn't have that however, but what I did not have, I now try to provide for others. My two years of torture, pain, failures, triumpths, what works, what does not work, I have blogged, and posted that for you, hopefully it will help in some subtle way.

I am still learning as I go. I do try to answer emails when I can, but I still have my own struggles daily. I still at times marvel that I could have been so blind, that I could have believed this lie that was fed to me about democracy and freedom, but I believed it. I trusted it, I was so sure of it, that is why it took so long for me to see the truth, but see it I did, and I had to see it for myself before I could move forward. Your children will believe the lies of the state, unless you teach them the truth. They will believe spying on their parents, and being citizen informants, and hunting down targets are good things to do. They won't know the difference, they won't know wrong from right, because oppression will be all they will learn. They will be indoctrinated, and that is all that there will be for them.

This post goes out to leaders, I know you are out there, because many of us do have the potential to be leaders, to speak the truth, to guide others, to let our lights shine forth as they must do in time, and to inspire others as we must.

To some of the leaders that have gone before, let's remember what their efforts cost them.

*Joan of Ark, lead France to victory only to be sacrificed to the enemy and burnt alive.
*Martin Luther King, though appreciated he was still assassinated.
*Ghandi, appreciated and assassinated.
*Jesus, betrayed, appreciated, and assassinated. (Crucified.)
*John Lennon, not seen as a leader in the traditional sense, but he had the influence to change a generation and he was assassinated.
*The panthers, Malcolm X, jailed, assassinated, some had the loyalty of the people.
*Whistle blowers, reporters that still tell the truth. Many are jobless, some homeless, many are targeted like ourselves, some have been killed for telling the truth.

The list goes on, and the struggle continues. I don't want to scare anyone off, but look at what has gone before, keep that in mind as we try to find a way forward.

This post goes out to leaders, past, present and future. Thank you for your light, your sacrifices, your love, guidance, and willingness to take on the burdens so many others passed by, or were too self involved to take up. We look to you, and ask for your guidance in this time period of oppression and struggle, for those of us that are waking up to the truth. The struggle has never ended, the fight has never truly been won, and the battle rages on. We pray and hope for what small victories we may have.

So you want a revolution?

So you say you want a revolution?

This is something that has been playing in my head. I don't know why.

Youtube

It's such a happy song, and the Beatles look like they are having just so much fun singing this. I keep thinking what could have been so bad about John Lennon, that the State had to follow him around, and then his eventual assassination, but of course I know the answer, he had a following of millions of people and he was teaching those anti-establishment ideas that the state just hates so much.

Men like him, Martin Luther, Jesus just don't seem harmful, but that's to innocent naive minds like mine. Not to a brutal state, they are horrible evil threats, that needed to be removed.

[quote]You say you want a revolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know you can count me out

Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright

You say you got a real solution
Well you know
We don't love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well you know
We're doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is brother you have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright, al...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

Don't you know know it's gonna be alright
Alright, alright

Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright [/quote]

So I was thinking about this, and what it would really mean in today's modern society to plan a revolution. Keeping in mind that a year ago, I could not have conceived that there could be anything in my society to revolt against, or want to revolt against, maybe lower taxes, but nothing like this.
Again how you would revolt and what exactly you would revolt against is not clear. I mean the dictates of the state are being upheld by regular people, so if you really don't want to go along with this, then just don't.

Ask for people you can vote for who will change this, but if you want to do this revolution thing the old fashion way here are some thoughts.

If you are going to do a physical rebellion, first of all, who or what exactly would you physically rebel against? Again isn't it like shooting yourselves in the foot, when you could just stop submitting to peer pressure and just say no? Maybe that's just over simplified.

Ok some thoughts on what you are up against.

First if you are rebelling, then you clearly have to have a better system in place right, or concept or idea, and people who are honest, moral and decent who are going to make that happen right? Cause you don't want to be out of the frying pan and into the fire, getting rid of one brutal and oppressive, dishonest state for another. Also since the world has always been like this to some degree, I am thinking some other bogus constitutional change would be the better course of action.

Second our current society have some horrible tricks up their sleeves. If anyone has missed it, our local police are becoming more and more militarized every year.

I have read of some cases where they are going over seas and being trained by the Israel military?

Infowars

Democraticunderground

[quote]While the Drug War had been the main subject regarding this effect, everything has been pushed into overdrive as a result of the War on Terror. Now, ordinary drug users are being seen as accomplices of terrorists, let alone those involved in the distribution and sale of narcotics....

Also, cyber-terror has been lumped into the mix, leading to the specter of a SEAL raid on Hong Kong or Taiwanese hackers, leaving nerds with their brains splattered all over their computer monitors from the fire of milled, not stamped, Heckler & Koch submachine guns from a distance of 3 feet, shot in the back of the head.....


See, a military target can be killed without compunction or remorse. A military target has no rights. He is the moral equivalent of Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden, to be given no quarter, to be taken out by any means necessary, with the survival of friendlies being given a much higher priority than the survival of innocents who may be caught in the crossfire. (After all, they are "collateral damage," or, better, "were being used as 'human shields'.")

From here on, the oath to guard America from enemies both foreign, and domestic, trumps all law established to restrain police, since the police are the military, and the military is the police. Terrorists, and accomplices of terrorists, might be killed, if desirable, on the spot, without benefit of a trial, evidence, or the opportunity for a defense before a jury of one's peers. Any number of propagandist slogans can be used to cover for such actions, such as, "He had it coming," "His peers are scum," and "He's not One Of Us."
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Satellites

Washington Post

[quote]The Bush administration has approved a plan to expand domestic access to some of the most powerful tools of 21st-century spycraft, giving law enforcement officials and others the ability to view data obtained from satellite and aircraft sensors that can see through cloud cover and even penetrate buildings and underground bunkers. [/quote]

Just picture you in the movie Enemy of the state instead of Will Smith. (I will let you look up the movie clip for this one.) I mean not only can these suckers track you on land, but now they can view you in underground bunkers? Yet they still could never find Bin Laden. :eyeroll:

So not only can you not plan your rebellion in the open, but then when you take it underground, you are going to be spied on. Unlike the The Gunpowder Plot rebellion with Guy Fawkes, which the movie V 4 Vendetta alludes to. They just had snitches to worry about, but you would have snitches and spy satellites. Imagine V trying to plot his little rebellion under those conditions?


Snitches

Probably the most effective weapon of the state. Oppression of the people by the people. A whole society of snitches. People spying on each other and not knowing who they can trust, cause a rebellion hardly happens without plotting, and to plot you probably need people, unless you are resourceful like the movie character V.

So to begin with you have a society of people with not the best morals, and many with no sense of family or community loyalty, but a sense of loyalty to the State. Russia really knew what they were doing. So does this society now. So with most of society snitching and spying on each other, how you would even trust each other to plot together is beyond me. This would be one of the biggest obstacles to overcome, figuring out who to trust. (That's easy, no one?)


Spy cameras

OK currently Britain is the most heavily laden society with these spy cameras. Let's see how many spy cameras per person. Oh and don't worry, your society is soon to follow.

[quote]Per capita there are more surveillance cameras in the UK than any other country in the world - more than a million according to one recent estimate.

The average city dweller can expect to be captured on film every five minutes. Almost 500,000 low budget CCTV kits have been bought in the last three years.

At this rate, by 2015 there will be no such thing as a secret place in our city centres, according to Simon Davies, of the pressure group Privacy International. [/quote]

For the time being they are still counting on humans to monitor the data. Have you seen the ones that talk to you yet? Those are apparently loads of fun.



Brain reading devices

Yes it's no longer ok to think bad thoughts, think nice thoughts, think nice thoughts. Ok maybe just some naughty ones, but nothing against the state, cause they can monitor you and arrest you for it. Well they can monitor you for it, but no laws that we know of have been passed yet, for arrest, but you know if there is a movie plot about this, the rest is likely to be coming.

Gaurdian.co.uk

[quote]

Using the technology is 'like shining a torch, looking for writing on a wall'. CT image: Charles O'Rear/Corbis

A team of world-leading neuroscientists has developed a powerful technique that allows them to look deep inside a person's brain and read their intentions before they act.

The research breaks controversial new ground in scientists' ability to probe people's minds and eavesdrop on their thoughts, and raises serious ethical issues over how brain-reading technology may be used in the future.

The team used high-resolution brain scans to identify patterns of activity before translating them into meaningful thoughts, revealing what a person planned to do in the near future. It is the first time scientists have succeeded in reading intentions in this way.
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Ok now I have to admit, I have not seen the movie with Tom cruise yet, but since the real live version of this is about to hit, does anyone have a copy of Minority Report they want to lend me?

I will let you look up the movie clip on this one.

Internet Movie Data Base

[quote]
Plot Outline:

What would you do if you were accused of a murder, you had not committed... yet? more

In the future, criminals are caught before the crimes they commit, but one of the officers in the special unit is accused of one such crime and sets out to prove his innocence.[/quote]



Echelon

When it's baby brother is not interpreting your thoughts, Echelon is listing to what you are saying. Keep in mind it's not just Echelon listening in. Anything we have, any device we have that has a microphone can be turned into a listening device. We can even be listened in on via our land line phones, when they are on the hook. Cell phones, laptops, pda devices, can be listened in on remotely. Remember the mobster who was taken down because they remotely planted software on his cell phone so they could listen to his conversations in the room, even when the cell phone is turned off? As long as it has a microphone or it's a communication device, then watch your back.

We have this scary society that likes to listen in to what we are saying and wants to watch what we are doing.

[quote]In the greatest surveillance effort ever established, the US National Security Agency (NSA) has created a global spy system, codename ECHELON, which captures and analyzes virtually every phone call, fax, email and telex message sent anywhere in the world. ECHELON is controlled by the NSA and is operated in conjunction with the Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) of England, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE) of Canada, the Australian Defense Security Directorate (DSD), and the General Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) of New Zealand. These organizations are bound together under a secret 1948 agreement, UKUSA, whose terms and text remain under wraps even today.

The ECHELON system is fairly simple in design: position intercept stations all over the world to capture all satellite, microwave, cellular and fiber-optic communications traffic, and then process this information through the massive computer capabilities of the NSA, including advanced voice recognition and optical character recognition (OCR) programs, and look for code words or phrases (known as the ECHELON “Dictionary”) that will prompt the computers to flag the message for recording and transcribing for future analysis. Intelligence analysts at each of the respective “listening stations” maintain separate keyword lists for them to analyze any conversation or document flagged by the system, which is then forwarded to the respective intelligence agency headquarters that requested the intercept. [/quote]



PROMIS


Prosecutors Management Information Systems

Something that can track you so well, it knows when you are sleeping, knows when you are awake, probably knows if you have been good or bad, so be good for goodness sake. I don't know if it makes a list and checks it twice though, have to get back to you on that one.

From the wilderness

[quote]


What was it designed to do?

Designed as case-management software for federal prosecutors, PROMIS has the ability to combine disparate databases, and to track people by their involvement with the legal system.
What are some PROMIS capabilities?

What would you do if you possessed software that could think, understand every language in the world, that provided peep holes into everyone else’s computer “dressing rooms,” that could insert data into computers without people’s knowledge, that could fill in blanks beyond human reasoning and also predict what people would do - before they did it?....

Commenting on the capabilities of PROMIS, Mike Ruppert
states that “Mated with artificial intelligence it is
capable of analyzing not only an individual’s, but also
a community’s entire life, in real time. It is also
capable of issuing warnings when irregularities appear
and of predicting future movements based upon past
behavior.”

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I did a pretty In-depth look at PROMIS earlier this year, so if you want to have a gander at what it can do, check out the full blog post.

Wordpress

[quote]a). The venture, from the intelligence point of view, was a major success. Suspected dissidents couldn’t move anywhere without Big Brother watching them. Even if they traveled under a false name, various characteristics, such as height, hair color, age, were fed into roadside terminals and PROMIS searched through its database looking for a common denominator. It would be able to tell an army commander that a certain dissident who was in the north three days before had caught a train, then a bus, stayed at a friend’s house, and was now on the road under a different name. That’s how frightening the system was. By late 1985 virtually all dissidents - and an unknown number of unidentified innocents - had been rounded up. In a country whose rulers had no patience for such people, 20,000 government opponents either died or disappeared.[/quote]


Needless to say if you are having a rebellion, it will know before you do where you are staying and likely who you are staying with, as it and it's brothers track you around the globe.


Active Denial Weapons.

What can I say about these? Well they are actively being tested out on Iraqi citizen's right now. They are painful and yet if they don't kill you, but just fry the inside of you apparently it's ok, and they are approved for use. Once they finish testing these babies out on the Iraqi population and you try to have your rebellion, then it will be your turn.

Global Security

[quote]Active Denial Technology is a breakthrough non-lethal technology that uses millimeter-wave electromagnetic energy to stop, deter and turn back an advancing adversary from relatively long range. It is expected to save countless lives by providing a way to stop individuals without causing injury, before a deadly confrontation develops.[/quote]


Mindfully

[quote]The ultimate weapon

Electromagnetic weapons operate at the speed of light; they can kill, torture and enslave; but the public are largely unaware that they exist, because these weapons operate by stealth and leave no physical evidence. Electromagnetic weapons have been tested on human beings since 1976. By widely dispersing the involuntary human test-subjects, and vehemently attacking their credibility, it has been possible for the United States to proceed with these human experiments unhindered by discussions or criticisms, let alone opposition.

This ultimate weapon system is currently being deployed in Iraq. The US Air Force and the Marine Corps refer to it as “active denial technology”, as if it were used purely for defense, but it is not [/quote]

Yeah feel the burn. People are feeling the burn and we should be doing what we can to ensure their rights the same way we would our own, because what will be used against them, will be used against us later on. Sooner than later.



Your selves.


And let's say you defeat all those demons at the end of the day, you still have the biggest obstacle to overcome, that's right yourselves. The people who subscribed to this madness in the first place, the people who let this system continue for so long, you can over come a system, but if you don't first free your minds, change your mentality and attitudes you will be right back where you came from.

It's like the Israelites being freed from the Egyptians, and coming through the red sea, 40 years in the dessert, and these wars and battles to cleanse the land, and the moment they had the chance to what did the people do? Why they choose a King from amongst themselves to rule over them. So everyone can blame a state all they want, but the people have to take responsibility for the state of things as well.


Brookwitt

[quote] Samuel was not very happy about this so he took the matter to God. "And the Lord told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do" (I Samuel 8:7-9).

So God said okay, if they want to make someone other than me their king fine, but warn them that it will not be good. Samuel went back to the people and told them this but they insisted on having a king. "'No!' they said. ‘We want a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles" (I Sam. 8:20). God's people did not trust that He would go before them and fight for them. They wanted a man to protect and rule over them. God warned them but ultimately let them make the decision. "Listen to them and give them a king" (I Sam. 8:22). [/quote]

The same thing happened in Lord Of The Rings. I will let you look up the movie clip.

If you wanted change, change would happen, you have the power to do this, you either don't realise it, or are too scared, or mentally bound to make the change, or you really just don't want change and then that's all good too. It was just some early morning thoughts and ramblings that I thought I would share with you.

Ok I am actually going to attempt to sleep, but the Beatles song keep playing on in the background. Ok now I am on to some 80's clip trip. Just as good.

Double suicide, sounds like gang stalking. Part 2

Wit of the staircase

[quote]The harassment Mr. Wit and I are still enduring featured as its centerpiece an FBI file I earned as an undergrad in Detroit for protesting the plant closings there and doing other labor organizing. I also wrote several eloquent articles for Wayne State University's student newspaper demanding a Federal investigation into the Iran-Contra cover up when I was a freshman.

Wit's family has generations of working class factory workers on my father's side, and generations of academic specialists in radical political movements on my mother's side. My mother, who currently works at Wayne State University and has a PhD in politcal science that is focused on Black Panther and other radical movements in the Midwest, also recently received harassing phone calls, as did my younger brother.
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That is in Theresa Duncan’s own words. I have no way of confirming if she really did have an FBI file, but if it's anything like spying101.com then large chunks of democratic societies do. In a controlled society such as this, we probably all have files to an extent, be it eschelon, or other spying programs. We now even have approval for satellites that can see through buildings, and underground bunkers.

Washington Post

[quote]
The Bush administration has approved a plan to expand domestic access to some of the most powerful tools of 21st-century spycraft, giving law enforcement officials and others the ability to view data obtained from satellite and aircraft sensors that can see through cloud cover and even penetrate buildings and underground bunkers.[/quote]



I do know that according to what others have said about her blog, that in life she spoke and wrote well, very eloquent, and sophisticated.

In death I know that there is a concerted effort to make her look increasingly paranoid, and like someone who would take her life, and the truth is probably somewhere in between.

Theresa and Jeremy if they were targets of this sort of societal harassment had money, and his career was from what I have read was rising. This alone would set them apart from other targets.

Other things I found out about them, in my brief information collection session.

http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/the-theresa-duncan-tragedy/16942/?page=2

[quote]Then, a manager at Magnet questioned the racially tinged humor and recommended that the Shoo-fly Pie project be shelved. Gesue says Duncan lost control, shouting wildly — and was escorted from the building — a story confirmed to the Weekly by another former Magnet employee. Other staff packed up Duncan’s office things. Yet the two estranged friends still “had to do a photo shoot. It was awful. It was the last time I saw her.”[/quote]

It would be nice to have both sides of this story. Again it's too common for people to have their reputations trashed and they get to have no recourse after the fact.

Blogtown

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This morning, the LA Times has a fascinating story that chronicles the couple’s detachment from reality. One tidbit from the story really jumped out:


Blake and Duncan were sure people were conspiring against them — in particular, the Church of Scientology.

In a 27-page “chronology” written by Blake in October in preparation for a lawsuit against the church that was never filed, he alleges the couple was “methodically defamed, harassed, followed and threatened” by Scientologists. The document lists Tom Cruise, filmmaker-artist-author Miranda July, writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson, former Viacom Chief Executive Tom Freston, alternative rocker Beck and Art Forum Editor Tim Griffin, among others, as players in the dispute. In addition, a number of Hollywood talent agents and major league art collectors were accused of being in on the conspiracy…

Also in the chronology, Miranda July is accused of spreading unspecified defamation about Duncan in New York and is identified as a “Scientologist filmmaker” even though she is not affiliated with the church. July declined to comment. And a spokeswoman for the Church of Scientology, Karin Pouw, called the conspiracy allegations “bizarre.”

It’s clear that Blake’s accusation is baseless; the article also writes, “In the spring of 2006, according to the chronology, Blake and Duncan began documenting cars with Florida license plates and graffiti (some allegedly resembling Duncan’s signature) in their neighborhood as more evidence of the conspiracy. Around this time, Blake tossed urine onto the barbecue of neighbors who the couple suspected were Scientologists.”
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The more I read little blurbs like this it reminds me of things other targets have described, and the difficulty many have had with trying to prove high profile members of society are in on things. Why is it so hard to believe for those who don't know. Not only is this societal to begin with, but society is like one big sorority. I would not be surprised if many of the assertations they were making had some validity to them. I would however be surprised if it could ever be proven.

It's also interesting how they were focused in on scientologists as the main people stalking and harassing them, alternatively I have encountered others who are focused on Masons, others who focus on gangs, other who focus on extremist groups, other who focus on religious groups. Yet they all seem to be correct in their own ways. In their micro-cosem, that is what they are experiencing, but on a macro scale it's more elaborate, and wide scale than ever dreamed possible. It's a complete systemic system of control, and they just use whatever is handy, but also it would seem that they try to use nemesis, or groups you might not like, they play of fear, racism, sexism, phobia's, stereotypes.

If you are rich they use the poor, if you are black they use white, if you are poor they use the rich, if you are gay they use religious groups, I have had religious people tell me that they are being stalked by groups of gay men, and I have had others tell me it's gangs that they are being stalked by, and others tell me it's most definitely Masons. See I no longer doubt they are all correct and yet all wrong.

I don't know what these groups are being told about the people that get targeted, but since this is societal anyways, does it really matter?



Calanderlive

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In the spring of 2006, according to the chronology, Blake and Duncan began documenting cars with Florida license plates and graffiti (some allegedly resembling Duncan's signature) in their neighborhood as more evidence of the conspiracy. Around this time, Blake tossed urine onto the barbecue of neighbors who the couple suspected were Scientologists. He and Duncan were living in an office complex adjacent to Muse Productions' Venice offices after having been evicted from their apartment when Schlei encountered Blake shortly before the couple moved to New York in early 2007.

"He got a job at Rockstar," Schlei said. "He said, 'I like New York better. It's going to be awesome. I'm going into a new phase.' "

After the couple moved into the church apartment, Father Morales recalls them rapidly integrating into the church community. The two attended service every Sunday, a new thing for them, and kept a Bible on their coffee table. On July 3, Duncan helped orchestrate a benefit for restoration of the church.

Asked if he thought Blake and Duncan were running away from something, Morales said: "They felt they were being harassed by certain individuals. I have no way of knowing if it's true. I'd say, 'You're here now. We'll protect you.' I did sense they felt this was a sanctuary for them. They felt they had gotten away."[/quote]


I did read that she had been writing about MK Ultra and so it would seem they were not unfamiliar with Mind Control programs, wither they knew about the gang stalking aspect of it is still not clear. It does seem that they somewhat fled from L.A. to New York earlier this year, but the fresh start did them little good. I find it interesting the mention of graffiti found resembling Duncan's signature. It brings back memories of the suicide note that Anthony Brina found in his own handwriting, that he did not write.

When stuff like this happens I guess it's just easier for society to write them off as paranoids that took their own lives, not saying that that's not what happened, but from everything that I can see, they do seem to fit with what other gang stalking targets have gone through.

They started going to church and kept a copy of the bible on their coffee table. Not much point in running from something that is systemic, but you can try. Moving in this case did not help. The interesting thing is that even with money, social standing and popularity it did not help stop this assault. Much like when John Lennon reported being followed around. From what I have read of Duncan her blog was extremely popular, and well read and liked, yet there was no one it seems who could help them. They still grew increasingly cut off and isolated, well why not, when everyone is in on the joke but you.

It's sad, not just because they were more visible targets than others, but something out there should have been able to come to their rescue in time. I know there is no point of trying to make sense of this right now, I mean without all the details and background information, it's hard to put together a full picture.

I guess I will do what I can do which is just pray for them. Hope that they have found safety and peace that they could not find here. Do my best to help the targets that are here, and hope that someday people find the will, and the understanding to see that a system that does things like this to seemingly nice people, is probably not a good system.

The sad part is this will probably hold the worlds interest for all of two seconds and then they will move on to the next scoope and the next scandal, but for those two seconds, I hope that we can try to illicit something good from this, something useful, so that things may be better for other targets of this insane system, that seemingly controls society.

The System 2

The System. It controls all.

So when I wrote my last post a couple of days ago, I think I was starting to get this, but I don't think I really got this. I was sitting on a bench the other day and this little Asian boy and his family passed by. He was skipping along just young, innocent, happy, unaware of the evils of the world I would say. His parents were doing the snitch patrol thing, but he was just being a kid, unaware of it all, and then I think I finally got it. (Well some of it.)

Just like I would have been this happy kid, not skipping along, but unaware of the world, and this systemic system that is before me. Much like that kid, I probably had adults in my life who were aware of this snitching system, and who were also a part of this. Much like him, I lived and grew oblivious to this system. Much like some of the other targets. The same targets who are seeing these family patterns, we are all assuming it's something recent, because how could any of us envision a system that is like this.

At some point the targeted ones, are not for whatever reason absorbed into the Borg system, and maybe they do something that is out of line with our little controlled system. I mean I am still in the mode where I am thinking that my sensitization was accidental, but just like Mark and the other targets, there is probably nothing accidental about this stuff. It's all used for purposes of control. Thus why they try to attach (Anchor) other sensitizations to the original one. (As was attempted with me last year.)

I would or couldn't see this a year ago, not six months ago, maybe a month ago, but I get it now, well sort of. I think the problem is that most targets keep thinking this is brand new, most of us don't think that something like this could exist in society and why would we? I mean we are taught one thing, and apparently the truth is something quite different. What I don't get is why not just be honest about it?

China is pretty open about their snitching, Russia, East Germany, why all the farce and pretense, that you were not doing the exact same thing? This should have clicked before now. Red Squads (Red Squads, Protectors of Privilege) go back over a hundred years, the spying on campuses goes back over 70 years, (Spying101.com). This was never anything new, the only thing that is new, is our ability to compare notes. (The Internet)

When this happen to targets 15 years ago, even just 10 short years ago, the Internet was not what it was, so most targets would have suffered alone, unable to get help, thinking it was just them. Within the last few years however, with the groups that have formed we have targets comparing notes, being lead in the wrong direction by the disinfo agents, and now it makes a bit more sense.

There are no boundaries. I mean being rich or famous does not stop this. Eg. John Lennon. When he complained about being followed around in public by strangers, he said that if anything ever happened to him, it would be no accident. I just found out that in addition to his own government spying on him, my government also did. What a tag team. http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n072373A

I have pointed out Eminem's most recent lyrics. [quote]The track makes references to his phones being tapped, how an FBI van might pull up and he might just disappear, or maybe get taken out by a sniper one day. He goes on to say how he is focused on writing as many tracks as he can just incase something happens, and takes it one step further saying that he has already accepted he would be killed and then painted negatively for his actions. This is the point where the track briefly references 9/11 (after mentioning tremendous tremors) before going on to talk about 2 Pac predicting his death, and JFK's assasination - an allusion to them both being killed for being 'public enemy #1' in the past.[/quote] http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/011206Eminem.htm Very telling.

And of course Mark M. Rich had said if he disappears, has an accident or goes missing, etc,etc, it would be no accident.

So this explains a lot, but not everything. Why do some parents get their kids into this creepy snitch system from an early age, while others leave their kids oblivious to this?
In these little covert investigations which are part of the farce, why are some people made aware of what's going on, while others are not?

At least this explains why people go along with this, they are facing a an all encompasing system that is corrupt from top to bottom, that has ****large chunks of society,**** which I would say are in the majority that are a part of this. Thus explaining why people do not show more gumption.

If you are one of those people not in the know, you would never get it. You would just go through life, being unaware. You would also not believe it. You would have to see, feel and experience this for yourself. Once you do, you are not likely to forget.

Mobbing? How long was this going on in the workplaces, before it started getting documented? Is it as new as we first thought or was it on going for years, without being reported? Same question goes for bullying? It does appear with our ability to share and pass on information with the Internet and other mediums that there is now more awareness, but is that because the problem is at an all time high, or because people are finally in positions to document it? The same goes for who get's targeted most.

Is it really an increase disproportionate to other time frames, or are we just documenting the occurrences more accurately?

Finally. The nice thing about a corrupt system, it will not sustain itself forever. There is a reason we don't have the stupid and the corrupt at the helm. The Enron scandal comes to mind. http://www.electricityforum.com/news/dec03/enroncibc.html

Lot's of people knew about this, from what I have read, it was a big open secret. Many knew, many did nothing, and look how well that turned out? The problem is, the system that supported this happening, has not changed, and if anything is probably worst than ever. Now that's not too bad, because it's only people's money. What about when the stupid and corrupt are responsible for your drinking water, food supply, medicine, health care? We already see this working in our tribunals, courts, law offices, police departments. As a target you get to see the corrupt side of the tracks pretty quickly, and you understand the underlying consequences of this, but the rest of society, will not experience the fruits of these labours, the full fruit of this corrupt system till later, and then it will be a bit too late to correct it.

Just some food for thought. It's early morning, for some odd reason the target is being kept awake, the EMF is flowing fast and free, so I thought it would be nice to share. If I can't sleep, then I guess I can blog. :-)

Oh and remember, think nice thoughts, think nice thoughts.
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