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Sunday, January 18, 2009

Man arrested for Obama threat

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_2454736,00.html

It's finally happened. We have someone linked to conspiracy websites, that did something crazy. You knew it was coming ever since the What's behind the conspiracy empire articles.
I am serious just glad that there was no blood shed involved, or lone gunman theory type thing.
Let's look critically at this however. Some guy named Stevie something or other, allegedly wrote that he wanted to kill Obama.

So we can assume that he is maybe crazy? Ok, that a possibility, but since being a part of these conspiracy websites, is suppose to mean critical thinking, remember what that was and thinking outside the box, let's look at some other theories.

I am going to say that I visit the odd conspiracy website and in the years that I have visited
those sites, I have never heard anyone threaten to kill George W. Bush, and he was not a well liked president on some of these websites, but people were always like let's impeach him, or file charges, I can't think of any who threatened violence against him.

If Stevie what's his name is not a complete whack-job, then could he be a government shrill, or some type of military person who was set up to do this, and could this be what the conspiracy sites have been waiting for?

Eg. On one of the main conspiracy websites, right after this happened, I saw a thread that said that they thought he was a whackjob because he believed in some type of inverted sky theory. There you have it, because you believe in weird theories you are a dangerous whack job. Watch out David Icke. They also again tried to say that sites like that draw the mentally ill, which is the same argument they tried after the what's behind the conspiracy empires article came out. Now instead of critical arguments people are just silent, which is not a good thing.

They also distanced themselves from him, which is normal, but they asked no critical questions. There was no thinking outside of the box.

This guy had no gun, and no way of getting to the president, so why did he make the threats, was he put up to it?

When I saw his pictures I thought either of someone who was former navy seals, (military like Jessie the body) or you know one of those people that's not too bright and could be put up to something?

Then he was also really playing up for the cameras is the other thing that I noticed right away. Even when he was being arrested, he just kept rambling trying to give the impression that he was unstable, which might have been the deliberate idea.

If the conspiracy sites don't critically investigate this incident like they do the school shootings, then they are not doing their due diligence.

I know conspiracy theory right? Not really I draw your attention to the protest movements and what these people try to do there to give them a bad reputation. Watch this video and you will see not one, but three cops, try to incite a riot. They get stopped and fake arrested by their own, but had they succeeded, they would have ruined the reputation of that specific protest.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfzUOx53Rg

These people are on these conspiracy websites, and if they are not sprouting off garbage of their own, then they are trying to encourage others to do so, so you have to watch out. What sounds like an innocent discussion today, could be used to paint you as crazy tomorrow.

The other thing about this guy, which is hear say at this moment, but I will blog it anyways is that he allegedly harassed the former owner of Godlike Productions, till the owner thought of selling the site. If this is true, then he could be a shrill who set out to do this, so one of theirs could take over. (I am not saying this happened, cause I still have to confirm this story, but let's start thinking critically.)

We were all or should have been waiting for an incident like this to happen, something to paint some member of the conspiracy community as crazy. I was personally expecting some kind of armed stand off, but this is worst ofcourse, cause everyone is Obama crazy, and they could use
this to enact laws against these sites, so keep that in mind.

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Monday, September 22, 2008

The structure of our oppression video.

There is a new video out, it matches the article the structure of our oppression.
If you feel that the video might have some merit, then please upload it to your blogs, websites, etc.

Or please link to the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpHitaKk1s

Again the video just covers all the items that are located in the structure of oppression article, located here
http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Structure.html

I think a lot of information has come out in the last couple of weeks. I think it's up to Targeted Individuals to review the information, research for yourselves and then if you find the information to be valid, please share it with others.

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Sunday, September 21, 2008

Disinformation

http://naffoundation.org/False%20Shepherds.htm

This post is called disinfo. It's taken from a post called false Sheppard's from the Naff site. The common tactics have been reworked to apply to Gang Stalking, and the Targeted Individual Community.

Even as part of the community I don't always have my hands in everything that is happening. I tend to stay away from things that I know will not move this cause forward, that will not get us the answers that we need.

1. Covert Agents will make themselves experts on Gang Stalking. People will be dependent upon them for information instead of looking for other more valid sources of information.

Eg. When I first came online I joined several groups. One group specifically had a leader that many trusted, but over time I realised this person was a what we all called perps at the time. I watched person after person trying to prove that this person was a perp to no avail. When someone would challenge this person the other agents which were most in the group, would start going, no this person is legit. I can tell you I have worked with this person for years and they are legit. Especially this one person who would always pretend to argue with this person, this second person would always come to this first persons rescue.

I watched this scenario repeated, time and time again. Each challenger beat down, and run off the forum. I learnt that it's pointless for me to try to tell others who is a perp and who is not a perp. You have to figure it out for yourself. If you have come this far, only to be deceived by one of them, then I feel even more sorry for you. However I have been deceived by them before, so just keep questioning, and trust your instincts.

2. By being experts especially when claiming to be under attack by the bad guys, they will make legit targets feel sorry for them. They will make targets feel like we are all on the same side, but we are not. This brings targets to these experts for help and information. They see these people as trusted sources. This gives these people opportunities to continue to control targets, and harass targets. This gives these trusted people access to people, to find out their names, where they live, etc.

Eg. When I first started out, like everyone else I went looking for help. I was scared, didn't know WTF was going on, and wanted answers. The first things they tried to do is find out my name and information. "Oh you could be a perp, we don't know who you are, we are not giving you any information till we know more about you, we have had lot's of perps try to infiltrate us", etc. Being a naturally private person, they did not get a lot of details.

When they did think that they knew enough about me, they started to try to use my sensitivity against me. I was confused, because I was like what the heck? How could they all be doing this, just like offline. Cause online you expect to be in the presence of friends right? Wrong, if you can't find people to trust offline, be just as cautious online.

The thing that accidentally clued me in, was one day this perp was having a little too much fun. I didn't think of him as perp at the time, but he said something to the effect of, "wouldn't it be funny if you were in a forum full of perps and didn't know it"? Something about that really stayed with me, and I sat back then and just observed, pretty soon after some time I began to see that he might not have been that far off, or joking. After that I started to learn. It was shortly after that, that I started to look for other answers.

The other problem with these groups is anytime someone started to suggest something that sounded reasonable, it would be shot down and only what this leader said would have validity, it went back and forth like that for some time, and I learnt.

3. These agents what they will do is use legit victims to promote other perps. Eg. A legit target thinks they have found a trusted source, they will promote that source and then get other legit targets to trust the agent and therefore giving out personal information to these people.

Eg. When I first became a target, I use to really reference the David Lawson book, and at first I was on forums going well David Lawson in his book... says this, or says that..., but I had not done the research, I just trusted what these leaders had said, because I knew nothing about disinfo agents, and all these stupid games they play. I learnt in time.

4. Control of information. This is a biggie. Some of the experts in the targeted individual community can restrict what is said. I remember when people would bring up legit topics and it was something that they did not want said, well they would suppress a topic, sometimes legit observations that other targets had made.

Also many of these agents or citizen informants you see them on YouTube, doing their best to make targets look insane, paranoid, or by making up the worst stories.
When I was on some of these sites or forums, you just knew some of the things being said didn't sound right, but you just thought, they can't all be perps can they? Maybe not all, but too many are, and it just brings down legit targets.

Even on normal forums, what they do is they will have specific people who's only job it is to make the topic sound paranoid or crazy, or get legit topics banned, threads closed, or removed. Anything to make sure the correct information does not get out.

Eg. You have Covert sources on these forums going, no the government is not involved, why would the government stalk people, this is vigilante groups, I know this for a fact, cause I know who set me up for the stalking. Don't get me wrong, you have some real targets who might believe they know who did it and from whence it came, but you also have these people spreading what sounds like just enough correct information to make the disinfo sound truthful.

5. The truth factor. Yes this is where they will spread 95% truth and then 5% disinfo, but it's that 5% that will really screw you up. Most people will believe everything said, because you are getting truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, disinfo, truth, truth, truth. I talked about this when I saw a David Icke's video and I said that I believed he was right about 95% of the things he had said, but I believed he was 5% telling a myth with this references to how many messiahs had existed before.

Even without that example, there is the David Lawson book, came out the same year as 9/11. Had all the information needed to sound legit, but he comes to the conclusion that it's foreign terrorists and "anti-government" groups, who are responsible for the organised stalking? Really David? You were like a detective for 12 years, you travelled with these people for like how many years? Yet in my opinion he does not draw the right conclusion. Why is that?

Come on people think. What do you think the purpose of the book was? I have said it before and I will say it again. Either he is an agent, or he is the worst detective ever.

I believe the book is disinfo, using the 95% to 5% rule. Thanks to that book however, how many are still searching for terrorist or right wing groups as the source of their stalking? Remember not everyone has access to online groups. So many will get the book, look in the wrong place, and get themselves put in a mental hospital talking about terrorist stalking them, which I think was the purpose.

6. Yes another problem. By making themselves experts, targets get lazy. We trust them to speak for us. Depending on them to speak for us silences us, and determines the way our cause will move forward, or more importantly will not. Their goal is to keep the truth from us, and from the general public for as long as possible. We also then parrot their disinfo, so when we go to forums and talk about terrorist stalking us or whatever the lie is, then we look insane.

I keep encouraging targets, to find the leader within. Do your own research. If you are not good at research, just think. Does the information they are giving me match what I am seeing offline? Eg. The lie that this was extremist groups doing this, didn't wash. My friends and family were involved, they may be many things, but they are not members of extremist groups. Nore were they likely to be. What they were telling me in these forums, and what I did see, when I finally went outside again did not correspond. So I researched, came up with a hypothesis, when it didn't fully fit, I reworked it, tested it again, and then eventually the evidence matched what I was actually seeing. The pieces of the puzzle started to come together.

If the information is correct, I believed the corresponding proof would come. I think in the last week or two, a wealth of information has been found in my opinion to match what I was saying. I remember when I presented these theories on the forums, I was totally felt shot down and devalued, and I politely just left. It was not giving me the correct answers and I knew it. I more importantly knew that things were not what they seemed. For me it was the right thing to do. I can work well on my own, and if I had stayed in forums, or let others confuse me, I would not have been able to get to the correct information as quickly as I did. Trust your instincts if you have any.

7. By making them experts and our voices, they take away our power, and they move the movement forward the way they want it to go. Also if a target is about to reveal the truth, or come out with information, they will have someone on their side come out with it first, or come out with the information in greater detail. When they can no longer suppress the truth, they will tell the truth, but with their spin, and they will try to make sure that one of their people on their side is running the show.

They never just have one person. They always have several, and they will in subtle ways back each other up. I have said it before and I will say it again. I think out of let's say 10 sites, you will find one or two that are legit, and the rest will be run by their people. That is my personal opinion, but I have my reasons for feeling this way.

They won't all say the same thing, they will be working different angles so you will be like, well these people are doing something different, so you might feel that they are legit, but they still might not be.

8. Being an expert in some ways can be lucrative. Again the David Lawson book was the only thing the community had for some time. A lot of these people know how to work it with books, and DVD, etc. They will know how to network and how to organise better then most targets. Also they will have an agenda, if the truth is going to be disseminated on mass scale, it will be via their channels and not usually ours.

9. The agents I assume have a vested interest in making sure that the truth does not come to light. They do pose as leaders, cause we trust them to know more about the cause than we do. I mean many of them have been here before. Many of them knew about things like mind control, electronic harassment, etc.

When I came online, I looked to others, cause I didn't know what was going on, and it was easy to
truth these people. I was lucky, or maybe I don't know, but I didn't fall into some of the traps that I could of. Mostly I just wanted the truth about what was going on. It's taken up so much of my time.

10. As mentioned before, they will play off of each other. Eg. They will pretend to be on separate sides, then they will both be agents. I have seen this play a dozen times. It's confusing, cause then you are all like, ok I know this person is a perp, so the other person must be legit, not so. They can both perps.

If you are willing to see the truth, then ya it's pretty shocking that most in the community are not what they seem. Not by a long shot. On these forums, I mean normal forums, there are people there to push down our threads when we have legit conversations about these topics. In other cases to get threads closed. In other cases to make the topic sound crazy, and to just pretend to be targets, and make other targets disbelieve the truth.

When I tell you that we are up against a system, I am not joking. Till you see, feel and experience it for yourself, you will find it hard to believe. However for your own sakes, try to see it for what it is, if you are not able to do this, then at least make sure what they are telling you matches up. Do a little bit of searching yourself.

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