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Thursday, October 01, 2009

Police Respond to Gang Stalking

After going over some other details, I found the information to be inconclusive, so I will post the links, but I won't embed the videos.

The following video is dated Sept 05 2009. Anyways I assume that the video was made recently and is a new video, but I don't know that for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC8PDFxnyfQ

In the video a guy in a police outfit, who I assumed to be an officer describes the target opening th door as out of the ordinary behaviour. However it's out of th ordinary based on his life experiences, she could have many reasons that are sane and logical for having a video camera running, one of which could be a deep distrust of the police.

Again what's always interesting is that these experiences are being judged based on a third parties life experience. What if she had been robbed after opening the door, or attacked, and just felt safer having the camera?

He finds it odd because the camera is in her hands, what if she was just recording them without the camera in hand?

Why is it any of his business if she has a blanket or foil in her home? He is there to talk to her about a complaint that someone made so does he actually end up doing so?

She should really just stick to the topic, find out why they are there, I am not even sure why she let them in. I find it interesting that they are there for a report about her taking pictures, but the whole think is about sterotyping target instead, and the whole video never goes back to the reason they were there.

I find it interesting that after 1min and 11 second officer PHD can make a mental health assessment, he must be freakin amazing. He tells the woman in the video that she is displaying delusions of grandeur and delusions of persecution, because she opened the door to them with a video camera and because he sees foil?

Watch the video for yourself and make your own assessment of this officer.

So after 1 min and 31 second again he sees signs of mental illness, in the video if it's a real video and not another informant video, he never mentions about the original reason that they allegedly came knocking at this woman's door. Again two strange men in her home, she by herself, I say keep the video camera running.

I don't know if there is more to this video, but that was interesting.

The other video this woman pretend to go upstarirs to one of her neighbours and then knocking on the neighbours door. At one point she tells the neighbour that it's not in her head. I think instead of doing that, record the noises and the banging and then just go to the management office, with a complaint about the enjoyment of your apartment being interrupted due to noises after hours. Highlight the part of your lease that pertains to this, and then if it continues legal action, but they don't like exposure so that should get it stopped.

This woman in the video says that she lives in a condo, and that there is an asain guy who lives in another condo who is also a target, who is investigating Gang Stalking.


The other video was of the police cutting this woman off while she is driving. It's inconclusive, but again with being targeted it's the overall picture.

The last tape is of her video taping the downtown core, and she talks about some guy with a camera. First she was taking him, then he showed up and started taping her. The video however has no sound, so I just found it very there, till the guy showed up with the camera. The problem is there is no sound. So the audience does not really know what is being said.

On Youtube I have seen videos with no sound, and the narrator tells you what is happening, but you can't always trust what is being said. I find this part of the video odd. The informants don't usually engage the targets to this degree, however anything is possible. Again you have to be careful with youtube, that's why I stopped posting video like this in the first place.

Anyways it's been a long time since I did a post about Targets. I think Dave in Dublin was my last post about the Irish target.

I also found some spoof videos of Gang Stalking, they were funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RtCqJ280TU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjyEsMqcE0

The interesting point of this video for me was the fact that the officers could tell this woman that she was showing signs of mental illness for opening the door with a camera, and for having blankets and foil in her home in reference to an EMF sensitivity, which the officer knew nothing about.

This video is interesting because it brings me back to my investigations into Gang Stalking and when I first started investigating this. I was lucky enough to talk to a few police officers. One was useful in providing information that in one area in his division there had been five reports of Gang Stalking, and that they were all female, and single living by themselves.

This was interesting because again it matched what had been reported about single females and the disproportionate amount of targeting that might be happening to them.

I did not get into further demographics with the officer, though I wish I would have. What he did tell me however is that their reports of stalking had been written off as paranoia, and not taken seriously. I mentioned this before, but think about that, 5 single women living in the same division, who were reporting the same thing and it was not being taken seriously.

Anyways interesting stuff, provided that this is a real target and not an informant pretending, then I think some of the videos are of interest.

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Friday, June 05, 2009

Droege, the right and the system between

This post was really just going to be a short blurb, but the more I researched, the more their was to the story and I thought if I was going to tell the story, then I had better do it right, so where do I begin?

Well originally I thought the story was going to be about Keith de Roux and the fact that he killed Wolfgang Droege, but more importantly, I believe very strongly that Keith de Roux, might have been a Targeted Individual. That's where my investigation of this story started, but not where it ended, so I will take you through it bit by bit.

As usual, I came across a story that lead to another story, that lead to a death and a killer, but what caught my eye about the killer was his reasons for doing the killings. Stop me if you have heard this one before.

[quote]Friday said the 44-year-old Deroux's cocaine addiction was fuelling ‘paranoid delusions’ that listening devices and cameras had been placed in his apartment. The drug addict believed someone was sending him coded messages through his computer and, even after moving to a new residence, Deroux feared people were entering his house through an underground tunnel and funnelling "noxious gases" into the residence. The only person with enough resources for this kind of surveillance, Deroux figured, was his friend and cocaine dealer, Wolfgang Droege. … [/quote]

Ofcourse the killer is written off as some drug addicted paranoid whack job, who was just imagining, or making the whole thing up due to his paranoia, but let's look at the details. He believe he was under surveillance, listening devices, cameras, placed in his apartment. He believed that he was getting coded messages via his computer, and wait for it, even after moving the same things continued to happen. This time he moved to a house, he experiences gassing and home breakin's or home entry. The only part that is not clear is why he believe that they were using a tunnel of some sort to get in. Could be the drugs, or maybe there was some secret way into his home under the stairs from outside, stranger things have happened, depending on how the home was built.

Now I can't say that he was a targeted individual for sure, but my instinct tells me that he was. If so we have yet one more target, who killed someone, and the media and society covering it up, not giving any creed to his claims about being under investigation. This happened in Toronto, Canada. Now I sort of thought that was the end of the story and it sort of was, but then I decided to look into the life of Droege, the person that he had killed. Could Droege, have been helping with the investigation that this man believed he was under? Was there reason to suspect or believe that Droege could be or could have been working for the system?

So I started to look into his life. In the course of so doing, I am sure I visited a number of websites that the government does not like, and therefore I am sure I have incured the wrath of the informant force, and the never ending focus of their wrath, and as much as I would like to care, I can't. I am here to learn, if my learning and seeking to understand my world better, and those around me does not fit in with the status quo, too bad. If the snitches watching and monitoring my computer are going to use this stuff to accuse me of being what I am not, then too bad, I am not responsible for the stupidity of others.

Now on to the main story. I started with Droege's wikipedia page. That was an interesting story. Did you know the he and several others once tried to take over the tiny Island of Dominica?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfgang_Droege

[quote]1980s

In 1981, Droege helped organize a failed attempt, codenamed "Operation Red Dog", to invade the Caribbean nation of Dominica and overthrow its government and restore deposed Prime Minister Patrick John to power. According to testimony presented at the trial of Droege and his nine co-conspirators, in exchange for restoring John to power, Droege would have been permitted to use the island as the centre of a drug-refinement and trafficking operation.

The attempted coup went awry after a CFTR radio reporter who had been approached about an "exclusive story" decided to contact the police. Droege was sentenced to a three-year prison sentence for his mercenary activities. [/quote]

What was interesting about this plot for me was not that him and several others tried to take over Dominica, it was what I came away with. After reading the story, it just seemed that there was one person leading the operation more than the others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Dog

[quote]The plan was to charter a boat to Dominica and rendezvous via rubber boats with John and his makeshift army. The genesis of the idea came from long-time Klan member Mike Purdue, who was introduced in 1979 to Droege through David Duke. That summer, Purdue outlined his plan to overthrow Grenada and to set up several lucrative businesses. After their meeting, it was established that Droege would locate funds and resources. Duke initially involved Don Andrews, but after Purdue changed the target island to Dominica, Andrews withdrew. Klansmen Arnie Polli and Roger Dermee were paid US$3,000 to visit Dominica to obtain preliminary reconnaissance. Canadian neo-Nazi Martin K. Weiche was allegedly a financial backer of the plot along with James White of Houston and L. E. Matthews of Jackson, Mississippi.[1]

In February 1981, the captain and crew Duke had arranged for backed out. Purdue then approached a local boat captain and Vietnam War veteran, Michael S. Howell. Purdue said the Central Intelligence Agency needed his boat for a covert operation. Howell then contacted the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF). On April 25, John was arrested in Dominica. When Purdue learned of the arrest and that their plans were no longer secret, he insisted that the mission should continue.

On April 27, the group, including three ATF agents, met at the predetermined location, loaded the van and proceeded to the marina. A Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) team was waiting for them at the marina.[/quote]


What was interesting for me was the lack of information on Mike Perdue. The other thing that was interesting was the apparent tale he told about secretly being CIA on a covert mission. I remember that the FBI back in the 60's had over 25% concentration in the KKK, and that they often rose to leadership positions. I don't know what their concentration would be in this day and age.

I kept searching and I found this article, which covered a couple of points that I was wondering about.


http://www.natparty.com/stuff2.htm

The article covers two points that I was interested in. One that I will cover directly. A book came out a couple of years ago called Bayou of pigs, and it's a name play on the bay of pigs fiasco, and it talks all about the plan to take over the island of Dominica, but what is intersting about this article is that it also wonders about Perdue.


[quote] They went to a motel and Perdue paid for a room. Perdue introduced himself as a former sergeant in the Marine Corps and a Vietnam vet. He listed off his medals. And then he started the mercenary sales pitch: “He told me that the north end of the island was literally infested with communism,” Anderson says. “He left me with the impression that [Prime Minister Eugenia] Charles’ government was kind of leaning pro-communist.” There was going to be a coup, Perdue said, and he was hiring advisors. There would be minor resistance, he warned.

“I would like to have a bloodless coup,” Perdue told him, but, “who is to know what will happen in a situation like this?”

Although Perdue never said outright that it was a CIA-backed operation, he dropped hints. He mentioned his military experience and his “friends” in the State Department. “He planted in me in a roundabout way the seed of suspicion,” Anderson says, “where I suspicioned possibly that the CIA might be involved in this.” Perdue chose his words carefully. He said the U.S. Navy wanted to build a submarine base on the island. He said the CIA would be “interested” in what they were doing. Anderson realized that could mean any number of things, but one interpretation was that the CIA was somehow involved, which meant that this was a U.S. government sanctioned coup d’état. [/quote]

Was the CIA really involved in a coup d'etat, that failed?


[quote] “You’ll get $3,000 for going in,” Mike said. “About a month or so afterwards, you’ll get your $15,000 for staying with me.”
If Anderson agreed to stay on for the full five years as a First Sergeant in the Dominica Defense Force, he would also get one-sixth of Nortic Enterprises, the company that was going to develop the island’s economy.

“I’ve got a five-year contract,” Perdue said. “We’ll be in an advisory position. This is their country, so we respect their laws.”

Anderson said he was interested, so they went over the photocopied maps and the hand-drawn assault diagram of the police station. Perdue said he wanted Anderson to be his wingman in Red Dog One, one of the three mercenary teams that were going to storm the island. Together, the two of them would capture the charge office at police headquarters.

“If you’re in it for the money, the adventure, and to fight communism, to prevent expansion of communism in the Caribbean,” Perdue told him, “you’re in.”
Anderson wasn’t an ideologue. He had nothing to do with the Ku Klux Klan or anything like it. For him, this was a chance to make money. He thought Perdue was businesslike; he seemed like he knew what he was doing, like he had done this before.[/quote]

Just a few year earlier a similar popular uprising had been set up in the Dominican Republic.


http://www.dominicantoday.com/dr/forum/living-in-the-dr/
general-info/342/The-US-Intervention-in-the-Dominican-Republic


http://www.thedominican.net/articles/droege.htm

[quote]Droege and Purdue returned to Las Vegas in January 1981 to finalize the plans with their new business associates. At the meeting, it was decided that Droege would remain in Nevada while Purdue would travel to Dominica to get Patrick John to sign a contract that secured the participation of the military in the coup as well as assurances that all natural resources and development projects on the island would be handed over to the mercenaries and the investors.
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It's safe to say that the U.S. government definitely had an interest in that part of the world, and controlling the politics that happened there. Was the true objective of Operation Red Dog another such similar plot, disguised as something else? Was it really a covert CIA operation as stated? One can only wonder.

After some mishaps Droege, would go to jail, joined another right wing group and eventually quit the right wing group to form his own white/nationalist or as some call it white supremacist group the Heritage Front.


The Heritage Front would become Canada's largest group of it's kind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_Front


[quote]The Heritage Front was a Canadian neo-Nazi[1] white supremacist organization founded in 1989 and disbanded around 2005.[2] The group claimed that its members were "ordinary Canadian men and women who are dedicated to the European values and traditions upon which this nation was originally founded."[3] [/quote]


This group was established by Droege, Gerry Lincoln, and Grant Bristow.

This is where the story gets interesting, because as some of you know the punch line is that Grant Bristow was a CSIS informant right from the start, he deliberately made friends with Droege, and helped to establish the Heritage front. I wonder who picked the name? Front can stand for home front, but it can also stand for a front, something that is not what it seems.

Either way, just like with the left wing groups that I researched, Blank Panthers, Malcolm X, etc, the FBI, or in this case the same thing, CSIS Canada's version, seem to almost always be involved right from the start, or were able to quickly infiltrate.

When the story broke years later that Bristow was an informant many were outraged, he had helped commit a lot of outrageous actions.

[quote]Grant Bristow, working on behalf of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), infiltrated the group and became one of its leaders. According to the CSIS and Bristow, their role was to gather intelligence on the far right and try to suppress its violent activity. Bristow's role in the group was exposed in 1994 by the Toronto Sun, and became the subject of an inquiry by the Security Intelligence Review Committee, which published a report on the matter in that same year.[5][/quote]


What's interesting about Grant is that he did an interview several years later about his involvement with the Heritage Front, he tried to paint himself as a hero. When I was reading the article I tried to see his point of view, here he is being a double agent, and according to him trying to prevent violence, well he was not a snitch trying to keep himself out of jail granted, but after reading over the article, I just could not see him as the hero that he tried to portray himself as.

http://www.walrusmagazine.ca/articles/2004.09-security-andrew-mitrovica-csis-agent-canada/


[quote]August 12, 1994, the new, sedate life he had built in a bland Toronto suburb for himself, his wife, and son began to unravel. For six years, Bristow had inhabited the perilous universe of white supremacists as a mole for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (csis).

Months earlier, Bristow had gladly walked away from racists and espionage, his cover still safely intact. [/quote]


The problem with this article is that, I don't think that his cover was going to be intact for that much longer, and I think that is why he primarily walked away.

Heritage front had a member called Elisse Hategan and she wanted out, she started to take notes on the organization and when Grant found out, he sought permission from Droege to break into her home, and he also threatened her with a white van ride, implying ("beating and death threat")

http://kevinsteel.org/docs/timeline1.html#65

[quote]1993, July 1 - Heritage Front member Elisse Hategan tries to quit the phone harassment campaign. Secretly, Hategan contacts Canadian Centre on Racism and Prejudice and begins taking notes on the Heritage Front. Bristow learns of notes and tries to get Droege to authorize a break-in at Hategan house to retrieve notes. Bristow threatens her with a "white van ride" (beating and death threat implied). [Link to this item][/quote]

[quote]
1994, March - End of Bristow's assignment, CSIS's Operation Governor. [Link to this item]
--Source: Wikipedia entry, "Grant Bristow"

1994, March - Elisse Hagen testifies against Wolfgang Droege, Gary Shipper and Ken Barker. Her testifying at this hearing makes it apparent to few that Bristow is probably a CSIS mole. "Now, was Mr. Bristow with CSIS at that time? I don't think so. However, it was clear that someone, somewhere in the police apparatus, was protecting Mr. Bristow. I was sure of that, and when we met him in March, when Ms Hategan testified, it was obvious." [Link to this item]
--Source: Martin Thériault, director, Canadian Centre on Racism and Prejudice, Testimony before parliamentary committee, June 13, 1995
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His cover was not safe, in fact I would guess he had a pretty good idea that his cover was not going to be safe for long, and I think that is the real reason that he got out. I really tried to believe that he was the hero, going undercover to save the day, protect others from violence, but in typical FBI/CSIS fashion, it looks like he might have at times inspired some of the very violence that he pretended that he was trying to prevent. Just like when the FBI informant shot Viola Liuzzo.


[quote]1994, March - Publication of Web of Hate. Chapter 8 on the Heritage Front is longest in the book, 52 pages. Droege is covered in depth. Gerry Lincoln is mentioned in the book five times. Grant Bristow's name does not appear once, anywhere in the book, even though he is a founding member of the Heritage Front and a nearly 2,000 word news story (by Bill Dunphy), with photo, identifying Bristow as a Front member appeared in the Toronto Sun in 1992, As the SIRC report will reveal Kinsella was aware of the Sun article and the name of Grant Bristow and even attempted to lay a police complaint against him. The Sean Maguire incident is not mentioned in the book (in which an Aryan Nations enforcer caught with Bristow in 1991 with guns) even though it was reported in the press. The '92 and '93 Zentner fire bombings blamed on Nazis are not mentioned, though they were reported in the press. In the notes to Chapter 8 on the Heritage Front, Kinsella writes, he completed his research in October, 1993, so these events occurred well before the research for Web of Hate was completed. Later in August after Bristow is exposed, Kinsella will say he made a police complaint about Bristow for posing as an Ottawa Citizen reporter helping Kinsella to Bernie Farber, a May 7, 1993 incident described in the Dec. 9, 1994 SIRC report. So, a known member of the Heritage Front seeks information from a well-known Jewish organization and the incident is not mentioned in the book? Also, Kinsella claims in Chapter 8 that the Heritage Front has "2,000 in all" members and supporters, but provides no documentation for this. [Link to this item]
--Source: Quill & Quire. Toronto: Mar 1994. Vol. 60, Iss. 3; pg. 28
--Source: Web of Hate, first edition, 1994, HarperCollins[/quote]


It's amazing what was left out of the book, and that Grant Bristrow was left out of the book, and his actions go unmentioned. When I tried to research more on Predue, I also found information to be very unavailable, where all the other important players I could find information on, Maybe just one of those bad coincidents.

Back to Droege, at some point the going to jail, betrayl by a guy he thought was the best friend that he had ever had seems to have gotten to him, he lost his job and could not find normal means to support himself. What's interesting about Droege is the fact that Bristrow describes him as the real deal, someone who was not just all talk, but someone who was really committed to his cause. I find that no matter which side, the left or the right, the ones who are really for their cause, are the ones that often suffer the most, the ones that actually care. Clearly I don't share Droege's views, or values, but in researching this, it's one of the things that I find that he has in common with others who fought for a cause and really believed in it.


So back to the story, is it possible that Droege was helping to keep his friend Keith under surveillance visa a vie Gang Stalking?

[quote]Droege's involvement in a failed attempt to overthrow the government of Dominica in the Caribbean -- the plan being to set up a white supremacist base there -- led to a three-year prison sentence.

While others involved lost their stomach for far right activism after that failed plot, Droege "kept at it," Kinsella said. "They kept throwing him in jail, and he'd come out more committed than he was before."

Droege was arrested in Alabama in 1985 on cocaine possession and weapons charges. He was convicted and sentenced to 13 years, returning to Canada in April 1989.

He started organizing the Heritage Front in October 1989. The group was a continental network of neo-Nazis.

Among the tactics they used to spread their message were racist rock concerts and a telephone hotline that offered racist phone messages.

Droege was an associate of Holocaust-denier Ernst Zundel, who was recently deported from Canada.

After the mid-1990s and the emergence of the Internet as a primary communications and organizing tool for hate groups, Droege became less active and focused more on drug trafficking.[/quote]

He certainly lead a colorful life, and did spend a great deal of time in jail, and was into drugs.


http://www.natparty.com/stuff2.htm

[quote] Even though it was mid-afternoon, Wolfgang wore nothing but a T-shirt and underwear. He had no use for clothes. All he did these days was sell drugs out of his apartment, and the job had no dress code. His clients were desperate. They didn't care if he wore pants.

The neighbors suspected he was up to no good. Visitors would come and go at all hours. His apartment on the second floor of 2 North Drive was a regular drive-thru but the Toronto police drug squad apparently knew nothing about it. Although Wolfgang was one of those cryptically referred to as "known to police," and his FBI file warned he "should be considered armed and dangerous when not in custody," it had been years since his last run-in with the law.

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Well it is kinda weird that with all that going on, and his being known to the police that he was left to sell drugs out of his apartment. There are several sources across the net that agree that he was most likely at this stage in his life working with, and co-operating with the police.

If that is the case, then he could well have been assisting with the surveillance of his good friend Keith. If Keith is infact a Targeted Individual then Wolfgang Droege, is just one more death that you can attribute to the system and these great investigations, that drive people to the edge.

What I find interesting is that if you are under investigation the informants try to make up everything under the sun about you, you are crazy, racist, drug dealer, user, pedophile, homophobe, etc. When you are one of their informants, they let anything go, the truth is that they don't care if you are a drug dealer, user, seller, pedophile, racist, crazy, homophobe, etc. It's not about creating a better society it's about creating a controlled society.

The informants are the same, they don't care about justice, honor, decency, they just go along with whatever they are told. they don't care that their members rape targets, like how Ramonz Lopez was gang raped in her home, they don't care that they drive people to commit suicide, or commit murders designed to look like suicides, Jeremy Blake, Teresa Duncan, they don't care about the car crashes that they get targets into that take their lives, they have no compunction about poisoning our food, or messing with a child's diabetic medication, they don't care if they hit us with their cars, ruin our lives systemically etc. See as long as they are controlling things that's all they care about. That's why you often find out that many of these terrorist plots, organizations, have some informant on the inside, conducting things and leading things in the direction it should go. What I also found interesting is if one of these so called hate groups were doing the same things that these informants do to Targeted Individuals, society would be outraged.

If we had an extremist organization targeting specific groups within society and driving people to commit suicide, setting them up and baited for jail, placing them in mental hospitals, killing them, black listing them, or driving them to commit acts of violence we would be outraged, we would be in the streets screaming for these evil doers to be removed from our mists, we would say to ourselves what good people we are, and that this sort of element does not belong in society. Yet there is the irony, the very same things these so called good people would be in society screaming about, and crying about with their so called outrage, are the exact things and worst that they are letting happen to us, day in and day out, and many targets are snapping, and killing others, themselves, going to jail under false pretext, or mental hospitals, and society just sits back fully complacent and in agreement with what is happening. By protecting this system you are protecting the bad elements, real pedophiles that are now in high places in your governments trying to have sex with 14 and 15 year old boys, while dressed in panda costumes, and other such fun things.

http://www.mcall.com/news/nationworld/state/all-a3_aide.6916455may30,0,6458261.story

Society has truly become twisted, corrupt and immoral, and the side that thinks they are doing good, are the most corrupt of all, the system they protects destroys innocent lives, and it's corrupted, yet these so called good citizen protect, cherish and nurture this system, while pointing their fingers at others to let us know who the bad guys are, who to hate.

I have examined this, and hate that you can see and that you can identify you can deal with, but hate that masks itself under righteousness, or societal buzzwords should you go against the grain are more dangerous then that hate that is in front of your eyes.

The year Droege died was a tough year for Toronto, it became infamously known as what they would call the year of the gun, on the surface a weird time period where people just started killing each other, but below the surface when you examined it closer, you saw that several of the cases were linked back to this system, this cruel, cold corrupt system, and when you look at it closer, this is what play a very nice role in the year of the gun, and a lot of what goes on in society. When you examine the strings and see where they lead it does not paint a pretty picture, yet this is what people go along with, believe in, are bonded with, and have sworn their allegiance to.

Pretty frightening picture when you look at it in that regards. http://www.torontopedia.ca/Summer_of_The_Gun


Anyways Keith got 10 years, but will be out before then.

http://www.canadianfreespeech.com/portal/index.php?option=com_
content&task=view&id=122&Itemid=35

[quote]
On Friday, June 15 Keith de Roux a Toronto drug addict pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the murder of Heritage Front founder Wolfgang Droege, on April 13, 2005. He received a 10 year sentence, on top of the 14 months already spent in prison. He may well be out in another three years and four months on mandatory supervision – a pretty skimpy penalty for murder.[/quote]

Yes considering that he was likely correct about being under surveillance, and that could even have helped contribute to his downward spiral that lead to him committing the murder in the first place, but why include that little detail in the mix?

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Friday, December 26, 2008

Are Canadians paranoid enough?

Are Canadians being watched?

I thought that this would be a fun topic to cover. I was recently on a Canadian forum and I had a conversation with several members about electronic harassment and Gang Stalking.
Some thought it was paranoid to worry about being spied upon and monitored, that's fair, but let's look at some of the evidence presented and you tell me if they are paranoid enough when it comes to government spying.

The privacy commissioner of Canada, Jennifer Stoddard, warned Canadians this February about Secret databases that can not be accessed by the accused.

http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20080214_snitch_state.htm
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/02/13/rcmp-privacy.html?ref=rss

[quote]Jennifer Stoddart, the Privacy Commissioner of Canada, has given her own Valentine to Canadian citizens: a 48-page report warning them that the RCMP (Canada’s national police force) is keeping thousands of files on regular citizens in secret databases which cannot be seen by the accused.

One of the many disturbing facets of Stoddart’s report are the examples she cites of information for these secret files coming from citizen informants. In one case a man was put into the secret database because a resident of his daughter’s school neighborhood saw him entering a rooming house and—believing drugs were involved—called the police. The police investigation concluded that the man had only stepped out of his car to have a cigarette, but the file was still in the national security databank seven years later.

Another incident cited in the Stoddart report involved a neighbour who saw two men carrying “something that resembled a large drum, wrapped in canvas” into their house. Police were called to investigate but found nothing resembling the reported item, yet the data was still sitting in a top secret databank five years later. As Stoddart points out in the CBC story on the report, this is potentially disastrous for the individuals named in the files, because it “could potentially affect someone trying to obtain an employment security clearance, or impede an individual’s ability to cross the border.”

What these seemingly disparate reports point to is a growing movement to turn the citizens of so-called free, democratic nations into a self-regulating secret police, saving the government the hassle of keeping tabs on everyone by delegating the duty to an unwitting public duped by a phoney war on terror. [/quote]

Ok So Canadians are in secret databases that can not be accessed, not a big deal for some. Let's see what else might be happening.

http://www.spying101.com/

[quote]If you attended a Canadian university in the past eighty years, it's possible that, unbeknownst to you, Canadian security agents were surveying you, your fellow students, and your professors for 'subversive' tendencies and behaviour. Since the end of the First World War, members of the RCMP have infiltrated the campuses of Canada's universities and colleges to spy, meet informants, gather information, and on occasion, to attend classes.[/quote]
Spying in Canadian schools and on Campus.

[quote]The book, a thorough examination of RCMP surveillance of the academic world, also discusses the Mounties' efforts to keep tabs on other elements of society, including government, the media and women's groups. The RCMP created security files on 800,000 Canadians, and it has long been known the force took an active interest in politicians and public servantswith links to Communist organizations or other pursuits deemed subversive.[/quote]

Wow 800,000 Canadians and counting with files opened, just for going to a Canadian University or College. That sounds reason to be a bit paranoid.

[quote]The Mounties cultivated informants among students and faculty at universities across the country and sometimes relied on the direct observations of RCMP members who were taking classes to further their education.[/quote]

Fellow students cultivated as Informants who then graduate and go on into the workforce and into the rest of society? Nothing to be paranoid about there, if you care about your privacy.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2499.html

[quote]According to Redden, citizens can sometimes defeat the snitch culture. He lauds Canadians for discovering a secret government database that contained information on "virtually everyone in the country."

The system tracked domestic and external travel, personal finances, and other intimate details on 33 million people.

When journalists revealed that the database was being used by spy agencies and the Mounties, 18,000 Canadians petitioned the health ministry to find out what the government knew about them. Eventually, the government was forced to dismantle the database ? or so they said.

Government officials admitted the database was insecure, and so countless copies could easily have been made by police or nosy bureaucrats.[/quote]

Wow a secret government database the contained information on nearly everyone in the country. The last time I heard about something like this, it was East Germany. I wonder how a country the size of Canada, can have a secret government database with information on just about everyone. What intimate details did this system have, and how did it get this information?
They dismantled a database with information on everyone in the country, that they must have spent a great deal of time, effort and money to collect? Does anyone really believe this? Of course they do. Wow this would make some people a little paranoid.

Lastly not related to spying but an interesting link. From the people who brought you Truman Show Syndrome.

I found out that there is a military link, at least one of the male patients had a former military background.

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2008/07/being_the_main_character_in_yo.html

Also one of the psychiatrist that is researching Truman Show Syndrome works out of McGill University in Quebec.

http://gangstalking.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/truman-show-delusion

[quote]Gold and his brother, Dr. Ian Gold, the Canada research chair in philosophy and psychiatry at McGill University in Montreal, came up with the term “Truman Show delusion.”[/quote]

If you will remember the MK Ultra mind control experiments which the Canadian and U.S. government agreed to, were conducted by McGill University in Montreal, Dr Ewen Cameron’s old haunt. Ewen Cameron is the doctor that was at the heart of the MK Ultra experiments and McGill is the very University that allowed them.

Also many of complaints about Gang Stalking in Canada are coming out of Toronto and Vancouver Canada. I have seen at least one news article on this for Vancouver, but I don't think I have seen any articles about this subject out of Toronto yet, which based on the complains is an epicenter for Gang Stalking.

This is all fun stuff to know. So should Canadians be more concerned, more paranoid, or is there
really nothing to see here? Only time will tell.

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Sunday, February 25, 2007

Toronto's year of the gun revisited.

Toronto's year of the gun revisited.

The year of the gun we all know the stories right, drugs, gangs, ethnic youth getting access to guns, and then Toronto's year of the gun just exploded right.

That's the story and that's all there is to it, or is there more?

How many of these people were recently out on parole when they committed these crimes? Why were they out on parole?

How many of these people were out of jail or good community policing program behavior? Meaning that they were offered time out of jail if they agreed to take part in the new snitching programs that the city has on going?

How many were trying to walk away from this forced slavery program when they were eliminated?

How many were getting back at someone who had set them up for these programs?
How many gang members will be released back into the community because they agree to take part in these programs, as an extra set of eyes and ears for the community?

I can't judge these people who are looking at 15-20 years for gun related crimes, for choosing a life of slavery on the outside rather than a life of slavery on the inside.

I can blame a society who thinks that it's a good idea to let people who are committing the same exact crimes be bound by different rules, because they agree to join some snitch program.

I can also blame a society that does not stop to wonder what happens to these young people when they get a taste of freedom and decide that they don't want to be slaves for the rest of their lives, and try to leave these programs, only to realise that there is no way out, except maybe one.

It astounds me that these questions were not asked when we had our increase in the year of the gun. Sure gangs and drugs played a large part, but where there other factors that we were missing behind some of these crimes?

In other societies where these programs are instituted, they will kill you if you try to leave these programs. If you find out that your friends set you up to go to jail, you might just agree to take part in one of these programs long enough to get back on the outside so that you can find the person who set you up and settle the score.

These programs do more harm to the moral fiber of society than guns and drugs in the long run. Then the innocent get caught up in the cross fire of these programs, thus giving society a greater need for such programs, and the vicious cycle continues.

These programs have left lot's of scares on other societies, and wounds that have yet to heal. Do we know all the factors that contributed to the year of the gun? Are we ever likely to? Not if we don't stop to ask the questions.

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