The lives of others. (Wow a movie about our lives.)

I have not blogged in a long time, and this will be no exception. I have been a little distracted by other projects, but also by the whole, the government is trying to harm my in my home with some kind of electromagnetic energy from the apartment below me. Same as last time, but they seem to be turning up the frying a lot. To the stage where I have to find a workaround, let's just say it's become more imperative than before. Then there is the whole how to survive and stay well when the state is trying to destroy you literally. Well they do say live in interesting times, and now I do.

However there is still lot's that everyone needs to know, so I thought I would take the easy way out and post a movie review.

A movie review from someone else, cause this is a movie review about the lives of others. This is a movie about what's happening to many of us in our democratic countries. This is what happened to many citizens of the former East Germany. I wonder if they are still posting the suicide rates for this country, or if they will stop soon?

Remember I said there was a bridge in my city and they had to cordon it off because people just kept jumping and killing themselves, when I got back from the other city I was in for a time, I couldn't understand why. I just thought they had gambling problems or something. I am sure this was not the reason for everyone jumping, but I bet this explains the increased rate to the stage where they had to place steel ropes at the side of this very long, long bridge.

The rate of drug use, and mental illnesses has gone up a lot in my city as well, from people that I have discussed this with, and the whole time I could not begin to understand why. Apparently this stuff just comes with the territory when regimes like this are coming into play, it's all part and parcel of the whole genie gig.

This sort of listing or life destroying activity can happen to rich or poor, famous, non famous, infamous.

There is a book now put together by some journalists, and they talk about something called the buzz saw. It's something that can rip through you, and leave you and destroy your life. If you investigate the wrong story or do research into the wrong thing. You might just experience the buzz saw. Maybe I should have written the college paper on the upcoming pole shift? We are all suppose to believe it's all caused by global warming right?

http://www.powells.com/biblio?isbn=1573929727

[quote]
Synopses & Reviews
The buzzsaw is what reporters call the powerful system of censorship in the US that is revealed to those investigating extremely sensitive stories, usually having to do with high-level government or corporate malfeasance. Here a group of journalists, who usually avoid collaboration and the spotlight, risk the blade by describing their encounters with it. Annotation c. Book News, Inc., Portland, OR
Synopsis:
Writing in riveting detail about their personal experiences with corporate efforts to kill their controversial stories and their careers, nearly two dozen print and TV journalists present devastating essays about the dangerous state of American journalism today. [quote]

Anyways without further ado, a movie review about the lives of others, which should be out on video if I understand correctly.

http://www.blockbuster.com/catalog/movieDetails/287227
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others

[quote]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/ I wonder why there has been so little written and publicized about this movie. This should be seen in every country and its merits trumpeted from the skies. It starts off slowly and the locale is the former East Germany, inhabited by 16 million people who are being spied upon relentlessly by their secret police. In this very real world of the Berlin Wall, there are many Stasi, 90,000, overseeing the populace, aided and abetted by hundreds of thousands of informants. Many of these snitches were blackmailed or other pressures exerted (threats to children and loved ones) and a few obliged voluntarily. [/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others

[quote]In 1984 East Germany (also known as the GDR or DDR) , Stasi Hauptmann Gerd Wiesler (HGW), a keenly idealistic supporter of the communist regime, is assigned to spy on playwright Georg Dreyman, who, Wiesler is told, is suspected of Western leanings. Stasi agents secretly enter Dreyman's apartment in order to install small microphones in the light switches and electric sockets, and cables in the walls, which connect the microphones to an attic space above the apartment, where Wiesler and an assistant take turns monitoring the activity below 24 hours a day, typing a report with anything they hear that might be relevant. A neighbour who happens to observe the agents is told that if she reveals their presence her daughter will be forced out of her spot in the university.

Wiesler soon finds out that the real reason why Dreyman is being spied on is that a minister and member of the Party's Central Committee is attracted to Dreyman's girlfriend, actress Christa-Maria; if Dreyman is arrested the minister will have free rein. This destroys Wiesler's motivation, as the job is not seriously investigating crimes against the Socialist state.

Dreyman is a supporter of the regime, but dislikes the way dissidents are treated. He publicly stands up for his friends if he feels that they have been unfairly treated. One friend is a director, Jerska who has been sapped of joie de vivre because he has been blacklisted for several years. At Dreyman's 40th birthday party, Jerska gives Dreyman a gift of sheet music entitled "Sonata for a Good Man". Shortly afterward, Jerska commits suicide which finally spurs Dreyman into speaking out against the regime. Dreyman arranges with West Germany's "Der Spiegel" periodical magazine to anonymously publish in an article on suicide rates in the GDR. While the GDR publishes detailed statistics on many things, it has not published any statistics on suicide rates since the 1970s , presumably because they are embarrassingly high. Because all typewriters are required to be registered, Dreyman uses a separate typewriter with a red ribbon to write the article, which he hides under the floor in his apartment. Before Dreyman and his friends discuss sensitive issues in Dreyman's apartment they test whether it is bugged: they pretend that someone will be smuggled in a relative's car over to the West. Later they conclude that the apartment is not bugged, because the car is not searched. Unknown to them, that is only because Wiesler has temporarily taken pity on them and had not understood that the discussion was in fact a test.

As Wiesler's empathy for the writer and his girlfriend has grown over time, he lies in his reports to protect Dreyman. Also, at his proposal, the hours of surveillance are reduced, so that it is no longer continuous and he no longer has to share the work with his more objective assistant.

Meanwhile, the minister, angered that Christa-Maria had chosen to no longer see him, orders Wiesler's superior, Anton Grubitz, to find some way to destroy her and tells him that she has gained narcotics, illegally, from abroad. Grubitz and his men manage to catch her in the act of purchasing these drugs and she is arrested. Terrified, she turns Dreyman in. The house is searched for contraband by security officials, but the typewriter is not found. Wiesler is called in to interrogate Christa-Maria. At this point, Grubitz begins to suspect of Wiesler's newly found pity and implies that, even though they are longtime friends, a failure to perform his work will be very costly. Wiesler interrogates Christa-Maria (with his boss watching through the two way mirror) with the same flawlessness and objectivity that characterized him for years. She breaks down and tells him where the typewriter is hidden. Wiesler however, still determined to protect a couple he has come to care for, travels to their apartment before the police can search it again and surreptitiously hides the typewriter.

During a second search, in the presence of Christa-Maria, when the hiding place of the typewriter is about to be opened, Christa-Maria walks away in shame, and throws herself in front of a truck. The secret hiding place is opened, but is found empty. A helpless Wiesler who is watching the events just outside the apartment, tries to tell Christa that he has the typewriter, but can't complete his words. Dreyman arrives at the scene and Christa-Maria dies in his hands. As a result the surveillance operation becomes pointless: Wiesler's superior, calls it off and distrusting Wiesler, ensures the end of his career. The newspaper lying in the front seat of Wiesler's car announces that Gorbachev is the new Party Secretary of the Soviet Union. Wiesler is demoted to Department M, where he tediously steams open letters all day. Four years and seven months later, Wiesler is opening letters when a coworker with a radio notifies him of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

At the end of the film, after German reunification, Dreyman encounters a former minister and asks why his apartment was never bugged. The minister ironically details the scope of Dreyman's extensive surveillance, telling him where to look for the equipment. Dreyman finds the wires and becomes perplexed as to how he was never caught. He finds the truth further while searching his file in Stasi's archives: while Wiesler heard Dreyman and his friends conducting anti-regime activities (such as the writing of the suicide article), Wiesler did not report those things in his voluminous typed notes; instead, he (Wiesler) falsely wrote that Dreyman was writing a play on Lenin, a topic the regime would have approved. Next to the final page of notes is a red smudge, which provides evidence that it was he who had removed the type writer, which used red ink. Dreyman notes the code name "HGW XX/7" in all reports and discovers the identity that it corresponds to. He finds out the location of Wiesler and pursues him in a taxi, watching Wiesler delivering leaflets. He gets out of the car with the intention of meeting him, but changes his mind and gets back into the car.

Two years later, Dreyman publishes a novel named "Sonata for a Good Man". By chance, Wiesler sees the book in a bookstore, and finds that it is dedicated "To HGW XX/7 with gratitude" . When Wiesler buys the book and the vendor asks him if he should package it as a present, Wiesler responds: "No. It's for me." [/quote]

Durham’s tool to fight crime: You (More Snitches Coming)

http://metronews.ca/uploadedFiles/PDFs/20070411_toronto.pdf

Durham’s tool tofight crime: You (More Snitches Coming)

[quote]If you live in Durham Region and rowdy youths hang out in your neighbourhood, the police want to hear about it. Encouraging citizens to become their “eyes and ears” to solve problems and prevent crime is one element of a new three-year strategic plan endorsed by the police services board yesterday. But it will be a while before the plan, whose ultimate goal is a safer community, reaches the streets.

It’s part of a major transformation for the Durham police service over the next five to 10 years, Supt. Greg Mills told the board — one that will involve retraining and restructuring at every level to change the focus from reacting to crime to preventing it.

Four key areas will be targeted: youth, road safety, violence and property crime. For example, a group of “loud, disrespectful youths behaving in an anti-social manner” could be a precursor to gang activity, Mills explained. “We’re asking people to let the police know about problems like disorderly conduct that hasn’t risen to the level of a criminal act. If they’re out for a stroll, they will be our eyes and ears.” Citizens aren’t being asked to become vigilantes, just to work with police.[/quote] pg3.

Apparently the snitching program is working so well in some cities that they are not expanding it. That's right Durham region is going to get their own version of this monster that Toronto and other cities have in place currently Citizens, Suburban Spies as I like to call them are now also going to be recruited in Durham, the program will start to recruit over the next 3 years, but it's a long term 5-10 year plan. If we can get this sort of concentration in Toronto, then imagine the sort of concentration a much smaller venue like Durham is going to have?

We have snitches at ever corner in Toronto, I am not sure how long this has been ongoing, but again we have at least based on what I am seeing on the subway, over 85% concentration. That is a light figure, now again as a target, I am not sure if I am just seeing a higher concentration.
Apparently traditional policing methods are not working, the money and the budget is not there to do all the things that the police want to do or need to do, so they are getting the citizens to come out and lend a hand. On paper this sounds great. I mean even as a target, when I read it, it sounds great, but in reality it's a nightmare. You have people that are becoming citizen vigilantes. They seem to be recruiting from not the smartest elements in society, and it's a nightmare the stuff these people are doing.

First of all, the program is suppose to help keep an eye on things, but so far all it seems to be doing is finally giving racists, fanatics, and other yahoo's, the capacity and a forum for their hatred. The people joining these programs are the neighbourhood busy bodies that the world could do without, the people who think any foreigner looks funny, and should be watched, the people who have no power in their lives to begin with and finally think this will be a way to have some purpose in their lives, and then there are the others who just have too much time on their hands. You also get the other people who just want to snub their noses at others, who would not be noticed by anyone else outside of these programs. The losers of society have found an outlet.
Then you have the other half. The honest citizens of society who want to make the world a better place. The odd few who mistakenly really think that by going along with these programs they are going to make their communities safer.

These programs are suppose to be designed to make the world a better place, on paper they are and they sound great, but the reality that I am seeing is something quite different. Communities policing communities, everyone getting involved, becoming empowered after feeling powerless for so long, I mean it had me drooling for awhile, before I did a double take and said, wait a second, aren't these very same programs the ones that have me of all people being followed around the city and harassed? Aren't these the same programs that have me being tracked and harassed in my very home? Then I realised why yes they are, and something in the system has gone terribly wrong. Except unlike with other programs, there does not seem to be anyone to turn to get this mess sorted out.

The police will not look into complaints about targeting by these sorts of programs, and apparently to keep these sorts of programs quite in some cities, they have gone so far as to make the people being targeted by these programs look crazy if they try to complain about them or get assistance for them, in most cases they just go on to further slander the reputation of others. Something is not right and not working in a system that would have someone like me targeted. I can tell you this, you don't have to believe me or take me at my word, but just wait till it's your turn, or till this monster gets so far out of hand that it can't be controlled, if it's already not so far out of hand.

These programs on paper start off sounding so good. Citizen volunteers working with the police, keeping an eye and ear on things. Then you have the real monster of the program, which has turned my city into a Statsi State. So many people are a part of these programs that we have I am pretty sure, numbers greater than the Statsi had, meaning where they had 1 to 64. I think we have something like 1 to 15 or 1 to 25, but we have a lot of these snitches in a city of only about 5 million. The East Germans had about 16 million in their population and they controlled every body with just 91,000-400,000 snitches. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi[quote]it was estimated that 91,000 full-time employees and 300,000 informants were employed by the Stasi. [/quote]

We have concentrations that are higher than this ratio, based on what I am seeing. This thing that started out so great on paper has become a run away freight train. With just our public servants and unions that are taking part in this it's a lot, but then you have all the companies, private security, police, snitches, etc. It's a huge monster that this has become.
The other thing is though this is working for some members of society, I have seen a great deal of evidence to suggest that these programs are racially targeting individuals, going after more females than males, and targeting the people who could actually make the society a better place. They do not really seem to be cutting down on the major problems that we are having in society, but they are creating quick solutions. These types of programs are giving people a false sense of security, and empowerment, and I am not sure that they are truly targeting the problems that need to be targeted.

There are so many vigilante yahoo's in these programs. This seems to have given some people something to do with their lives, and not necessarily something better. There are many people that function well under systems like these and the Stasi system, and of course there are others that do not. The social sociopaths seem to function very well under these types of systems. The problem is these types of systems are coming into play in many parts of the world, and they seem to be set in place to herold in a global system of dominance, a New World Order if you will, that will be used to control the masses. Think Global, act local, and yet the dissenting voices that we should be hearing are continually being shut down, and closed off. More people and awareness should be out there about these sorts of programs so people can say if they want their city to become a snitch state or not, but just like the North American Union, these program seem to just slipped by the radars, and have now taken over society, and I am not sure what we can do to turn this system around, since so many people seem to function well under these sorts of systems while others do not.

Where is the money coming from?

Who is funding this operation?

Is it the government by themselves, or do they get funding from corporations? If it's the government on their own, they have too much money to waste. Now remember at my old place by the time that I moved most of the floor was being used for surveillance. Who is funding this? Are the S.S. Suburban Spies mostly just volunteers, forced snitches, forced spies, or other? I guess it's a combination. Are they paid or just some of them? What percentage are paid? If so how much.

We all know that these people are not above paying out three quarter of a million to a signal spy, but I doubt these people are seeing dollars like that. Still some of them are getting something for doing this. As per what I have read of the Red Squads that existed, many got pin money for spy. Remember back in the day, pin money was how you bought those little extras and things.
I can tell you at the last place the space was being used and the people moved out by hook or by crook. I assume they upgraded them etc. Now remember that I would in time find out that not only people that I knew knew things in my home that I ha not told them, but people in my place of work.

Where this started I still am not 100% sure. I can tell you that if you can get on a list for being anti-war, for writing letters or signing petitions or being out-spoken, then that me to a tee. However before this I have never been overtly political, so I would love to know where this started from. Who decided to do this and why. Remember I am still examining several angles. Most people seem to think that this started with Rogers, but I think this could have started before this. Not that they would not have exploited this. Apparently they were going for the crazy or paranoid thing from what I have been able to gather. I am not even going to justify that with a response.

I think my research so far has been quite eloquent and articulate for the most part.
At my new place I discovered that the person upstairs upgraded to a 2 bedroom. The Asian family across the hall now just got a home in Mississauga. Now remember I was ready for these sorts of patterns with the new neighbours and the upgrades and requests to move out. However a home in Mississauga? I didn't hear if it was paid for outright, or just a down payment. I didn't get that part. Even the guy above me is not too bad, cause to upgrade him to a two bedroom is nothing. It's like 100-150 extra per month. That's nothing for the State, but a home in Mississauga? I thought they would offer him an upgrade to move, not a home in Mississauga. It's not the first time I have heard of stuff like this either. So where is the money coming from.
The woman beside me does not seem to have taken the bate or maybe she was not offered. Maybe there are different rules for certain ethnic minorities. I know she is either part of the spy force or was warned about me, however some people have more common sense than others.
However if this is the kind of stuff they are pulling, no wonder there is no money for the poor, woman's shelters, the homeless. This I would bet is where some of this money is going to. Now I don't have the proof that I wish I did, it's just some things that start to come together after the fact, but if someone else wants to explore this angle of this, they so should be looked into and audited. However what's the point, even if someone proved without a shadow of a doubt how much money and unnecessary spending was going into something like this, nothing would ever come of it.

I remember just reading about a whistle blower who found out that the politicians were spending too much money. First she just did her job and tried to report it to the right people, the higher up's, they all tried to get her to bury it, but it didn't sit right with her, and she finally had to become a whistle-blower. Then she lost the job and had to sue them, well 12 years later or so, the case was just making it into court and if I recall correctly she lost.

This is justice in Canada. Hell it's the new system of justice in the world.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2001/01/23/ott_sue010123.html

[quote]Two whistleblowers at the Department of Foreign affairs have been ordered to pay about $80,000 to the government. John Guenette and Joanna Gualtieri attempted to sue the government for harassment they claim to have suffered after speaking out about wasteful spending in the department.
But five months ago, an Ontario judge ruled that Guenette and Gualtieri couldn't sue.
As part of the ruling, the two have to pay the government for its legal costs.
Axworthy's lawyers, and lawyers in the Justice Department, demanded a reimbursement from the whistleblowers of about $400,000.
But Justice James Chadwick settled on just under $80,000.[/quote]

http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/402881910674ebab010674f490101143.do.html
At least she tried however and now she is a voice in society that can be looked up to, but sometimes this is cold comfort. Where is the justice?

http://fairwhistleblower.ca/news/articles/2006-05-15_whistleblower_awaits_justice.htm
She waited fourteen years, and all it did was allow this system to become even more rotten.

http://fairwhistleblower.ca/news/articles/2006-05-22_whistle_blown_decade_lost.html

I am still in my home, these people are using God knows what on me, to electronically harass me. There is not one organisation that is willing to do anything about this, and yet what these people are doing is sanctioned by the government. It has their blessing and their approval. Yeah our society is not corrupt. It's more rotten then a bad apple at the core. Eventually someone is going to take a real bite, and find out just what they have been eating all along.

It's rotten from the bottom to the top, and then when you go and seek justice, they have that wired also. They own most of these places that we are suppose to go and seek justice, when they don't own these places, there people infiltrate these places, take over the forums, and so you run into the arms of the people that you are trying to avoid.

Still the system can I still believe give you justice, but you have to know the criminal elements you are dealing with. At this stage the mob probably has more ethics. These people are working on a level and playing on a level that is hard to imagine.

Where is the money coming from?

The same place it's always been coming from, while you break your backs, scarping to get by and take care of your kids, or keep up with the Jones' these people have more of your money than they know what to do with, and they will use it how they see fit, and if that leaves you someday marginalised, and broke, or just making ends meet too bad. If this means that there is not enough money for social programs, or to help the homeless or the down trodden, they don't care. They are off in their multi-million dollar homes that your hard earned money paid for, or buy snitches off, so that they can spy on other innocent people.

These people have the whole system wired, and they have been playing this game for longer than you ever imagined. It's a game that has been going on for a long time, and at each corner your turn looking for justice you will find corruption, injustice, and the immoral, sitting in powers of authority, and privilege. The money comes from the same place it's always come from, these systems do not change, and it's the same game over and over again, in every time period. The brave few will fight the system and a few might even win, but know what you are getting into and know what you are going up against first. It's corruption like you never even dreamed or imagined.

How it's working.

I was over at a forum which I don't frequent that much anymore. I have had a standing debate about electronic harassment. Ever since someone clued me into the fact that it was probably transducers or something else responsible for the bulk of the harassment happening to targets I have been trying to find the scientific explanation behind what is being done to torture many people in their homes.
I responded back in a very credible manner and explained that even though I did not know exactly how it was being done, I knew it was not space age technology being used on us. I explained that it was simple science and it would just be a time before people caught on to the simple science of the whole thing.
I did put forward a few ideas however and then I sent off the post. I had sent off another post a few minutes earlier. After sending off this post and reading a couple more. The forum stopped allowing postings. I was thinking, I wonder if the last post is going to get erased? After I posted I realised that my posting made more sense than I had thought and that it might be closer to the truth than appreciated.
I am sure what is being used is just simple science, smoke and mirrors as one target called it. People are trying to make targets think that it's all this advanced technology being used to torture them, when in fact it's just simple science at work. Just like the wizard of oz. Don't get me wrong, there is space age science happening in the world, but what is being done to targets is not space age stuff.
So I first pointed out that where I am, every time it gets quite and the vibrations stop that they have to bang on the floors, walls or ceiling to get the response they are looking for. I pointed out that it probably was very similar to the movie Dare Devil, where sound creates an image, and then you can see what is going on without having to do any invasive surveillance. A type of radar or sonar. They have something called a fish finder that does something like that under water using sonar. Plus I pointed out the transducers could track someone walking in a house on a floor to such a degree, that in a house of five people you would know which one was walking at which time on the floor.
Then I was asked what science I knew of that could levitate people and smash objects, at a distance. I pointed out that humans and other things have a magnetic center or picks up on magnets in the environment. So much so that they have actually been able to levitate frogs using the magnetism within their bodies. If they could get a powerful enough magnet, they could levitate humans as well.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:rrah_JQFchAJ:caleng.berkeley.edu/archive/2006spring/Matsumoto,%2520Sarcol,%2520Haystead,%2520Ng%2520-%2520Magnetic%2520Leviation%2520Trains.pdf+levitating+humans+with+magnets&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=ca
http://www.spellmaker.com/frog.htm
Well you don't have to levitate us, but with powerful magnets you could cause reactions in the human body, that other things would not necessarily pick up. Also I pointed out that sound could smash glass, invisible sound waves could do it quite easily. Just like Opera singers or the right pitch can smash glass, use invisible sound waves at the right frequency. I also posted a link to show how sound had been used to levitate small amphibians etc.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/01/chinese-mad-scientists-levitate-fish-with-sound/
I think then made some other points but then decided to leave it at that, since ehaassment is not my main subject matter right now.
I then found that my post was missing after the little forum service interruption. So I thought that I would share some of my musings here which are not as well put together as they were last night, but I hope it can give targets a few places to look for the answers, which are simple.
I have even been doing some light reading on how heat gets transferred.
Magnets can even be used to levitate a sumo wrestle, if he is standing on a disk. Science and technology have come a long way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glCNP6qH_Dc&feature=PlayList&p=8E7ED16454 FE1C63&index=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1vyB-O5i6E&feature=PlayList&p=8E7ED16454 FE1C63&index=3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBEgMDQELrE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdetI7glJP4&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVMwBJkT4A8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xnsaAleweU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIKbuZaJSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4exO4CuoSU&mode=related&search=
Now how is this working? God how is this not working? They have every angle covered but loose, however there is always an opening for people who really want to be free, so here goes.
I found out that I was being gang stalked, which now turns out to just be another Cointelpro, Red Squads combined with our Suburban Spy force type thing.
[b]Disinfo. [/b]
I learnt about disinformation campaigns along the way and that things are not as they seem, in fact they are not at all how they seem. These people have it so wired that every place you go, they have reach and they can get to you.
One of the first forums I went to was a stalking forum, probably the most popular ones. I went there only to discover that most of the people on that forum were perps, or people interested in keeping my story quite. What I would also discover, and maybe never be able to prove is that one of those people on the forum who signed up after I did, was someone from work, who I would say held a very high position and whom I sat beside on a regular basis. I discovered this based on something that was said, that's pretty creepy and scary.
More creepy is that you had people on that site who it seems their job is to hang out on the forum, become popular posters and then when a target of harassment or stalking like me posts, then they push the posts down, to get rid of them. So this way they keep these postings from being read. This seems to be the job of these people. Also the forum like Mark M. Rich pointed out that there was a connection to some kind of corporation. http://www.RichEssence.com
How else it's working. What you don't realise.
[b]All the basis are covered by them.[/b]
When they go to put out help or support forums, or if they are trying to run a disinfo campaign, they will cover every base. This means that targets when they are going for help to these forums, most of them are run by people that they have put in place to run them. The few honest ones that are run by real targets or genuine survivors are going to be over run by them.Eg. Let's say the subject is government corruption. Let's say you have 10 sites about this stuff. 8 of those sites will probably be run by people they have converted, bribed, corrupted, or purposely put in place to run those. So someone going for help on government corruption will be going right into the loving arms of the very people that they are trying to get away from, or giving out information to the very people they are trying to get away from.
I learnt this the hard way. As a gang stalking target, the first thing they wanted was my name, which I did not really give at the time, and my location. Not so that they could trust me, but so that they could find out who I was, and which tactics to start using to perp me off.
They have it all covered, when it comes to these support and help places. When you then have legit people who try to run forums, then you will still have the perps take over, and unless you have an amazing moderator, they will take over the forum. Just like how they infiltrate groups offline, they do the same thing online. You will find maybe 1 honest in 10 depending.
[b]They are all bad[/b]
When I first came online from the readings learnt that there would be things called perps, Suburban Spies who troll forums to throw targets off their game. However when I would think one person was a perp, they would do or say something to make me unsure. Then they would argue with someone I knew was a perp for sure, then I would be unsure. Then I read this really great thing from this site for survivors of ritual abuse, or something like that. It said that they are both perps. What these people do is that they will play off of each other. Think good cop bad cop. They will pretend to be enemies and argue amongst themselves. So you are forced to choose sides, because you think that well if A is arguing with B and B is a perp surly A must be good. Not so, most times, they are both perps, and that's how it's working. This does not go for just gang stalking. This goes for just about everything. These people have been at this for such a long time, they know the game better than all of us, and those who are new to this, how could we have any way of knowing this stuff? That such deceit and treachery exists in the world? That the world is corrupt and that this world will go to any length to try to hold you down and prevent you from getting justice? There is no way we could have know this stuff. The thing is however now that you sort of know how it's working be on your guard, trust yourself, maybe God.
Apparently David Lawson said to not trust anyone, and if I am correct, he is either a really bad detective, or a perp, so that should tell you something. I don't know how people are suppose to win and get free of this corrupt system. I mean this stuff goes way back, it's not new like I thought, it's way more ingranded than first realised. Also we have been not told the truth in society about so many things, and we have been brain washed.
One more way that things are working.
[b]If you are in a cult, would you know?[/b]
I always thought that I would, but I was wrong. That's how it's working in other cases. I don't know for sure yet, but I suspect that some of these places are recruiting genuinely innocent people. People who will swear up and down that their site, community, venue, organisation is not a perp or disinfo organisation. For them it's not, because if you were a part of a cult would you know right? Everyone always thinks that they would know, but not really. So since these innocent persons know that they are not perps or disinformation agents, you have people that are genuene who can swear that they are not and that their communities or organisations are not disinfo places. If you are part of a cult would you know it? Everyone thinks they would, most people don't.
Those are some of the ways it's working. Can this system be bypassed? Maybe, but why? People seem happy with this bs, they just seem to be satisfied with this. Like they don't care and then why should I care, they seem to be happy with the way things are. Maybe it's just an illusion, but I just don't know. Can humans triumph? Sure. There is a whole entire history that says they can, but why?
The moment they win out over tyranny and oppression, they just seem to pick people to rule over them? It seems like they like to be ruled over. I guess just because it's easier that way, because if most people took the time to sit back see how it's working and decide that they don't want to be a part of this, they could probably be free one way or other, but most people seem happy to let their fears and dependency bind them to really weird and messed up situations like this.
Tomorrow if we all picked up and too our business to elsewhere, these big companies who have everyone bound would be reeling, but instead they have everyone else reeling. Same way with some of these systems, but that's how it's been working, that's how it is working, and that is how it seems it will continue to be working.
Even when the truth gets out, it will be their version, and if someone decent should manage to get into a position of power for a moment to do some good, they would have it wired so that it would not last very long.
At the end of the Lord of the Rings after defeating a force that was evil and wanted to rule and control them all, what did the people do? They anointed a King who could rule over them. He was a good King, but you would think a few of them would have said enough of this ruling thing, we want to be independent and handle our own affairs? We seem to be pretty lazy like that, and history as so many examples. People seem to want to be ruled over for some reason? I guess it's just easier then you don't have to think or take the responsibility or make the decisions? I am sure I like having some elected officials as much as the next person, but I would be happy to do my own thing just as easily.
How is this working? Well it's not for some of us.
P.S. I almost forgot one more thing. I just opened up my email and it's reminded me that you might sometimes get threats on forums subtly posted. My email that I just got from dear Gerry about his poisoning just reminded me about that as I opened up my inbox.

Also I was just offline for the last several hours, my Internet connections, all were down. I had somehow expected this. Apparently not all the time on the phone with rep or fake rep and some bs story about new accounts, or repeated attempts to connect would work.
Apparently what works is saying out loud to your empty apartment that if your Internet connection does not start working right away, you will be blogging to the Canadian public about how restrictive the government of your democratic Canadian society is. Apparently that works.
This is just a small brief bit about how it's working, or not working.

To the victor.

How will history view this time? To the victor goes the spoils, and apparently their version of history. I am wondering how this time period will be written? I watched Rosie Odonnell get dissed yesterday because she spoke the truth. I always grew up thinking that we were the good guys, the democratic ones. However now I see our western society on the brink of yet another war. I have to wonder if this is how the German people felt as Hitler invaded country after country? I have seen two wars in recent times. One that was definitely not necessary, and which caused the destruction of 10's of thousands of lives and a country. A country that held riches that were coveted, by a greedy malignant hunger that needs to be fed. A war called unjust by some and illegal by others like the UN, and yet the aggression continues.

In the last war we had Hitler, Mussolini, Hirohito on the one hand, and now we have the US, UK and allies on the other. We just went out of our way to try to provoke a war that can and will have dire consequences if it happens and yet the aggression continues. Purposely Provoked by war-hungry trouble makers. Yet we are silent. How will history remember this time? The same as now. For now there are voices who would stand up in opposition to this, and say that it is wrong, while there are other who will see it as duly justified and necessary.

How will history remember this time? The same as now. To the victor will go the spoils, and the writing of the history books. History is not necessarily about the truth. It's about power and conquest, with little bits of truth shining through here and there. Most people seem to have trouble understanding that there is a difference between loyalty and mindless conformity. You can be loyal to a person or a place without mindless conformity, or not going along with every dictate issued and that's what most people are doing. Individuality and independent thought are not taught in the schools. All they are teaching the children are to be mindless conformists, who are not capable of independent thoughts or actions. They teach them to learn to follow orders and obey. These are not the traits that made up our many and more memorable leaders of the past. They were people who could think independently. They could strategies. They could perform the most complex of mathematical equations, and create new mysteries or schools of thought. They were creators not destroyers. They could think and they were charismatic inside and out. Don't get me wrong, history also has many great fools that pass for leaders when better people were not available, or could not be called forth, but I like to think that the truly remarkable ones, the ones that we remember most, had something special and unique.

How will history remember us? To the victor will go the spoils.

To serve and protect 2.

3. Baltimore Police Arrest, Handcuff 7-Year-Old Boy for Riding Bike http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,259302,00.html
Baltimore Police Arrest, Handcuff 7-Year-Old Boy for Riding Bike on Sidewalk
Saturday , March 17, 2007

[quote]BALTIMORE — Police arrested a 7-year-old boy, handcuffed him and hauled him down to the station house on a charge of riding a motorized dirt bike on a sidewalk.
Then, according to his mother, Gerard Mungo Jr. was handcuffed to a bench and interrogated before being released to his parents.
"They scared me," Gerard told The Baltimore Examiner before breaking down in tears.
Mayor Sheila Dixon apologized Friday for the arrest, and police commissioner Leonard Hamm said it would be investigated internally.
The arrest came after an officer saw Gerard riding his dirt bike on the sidewalk in east Baltimore on Tuesday, police spokesman Matt Jablow said. Hamm, citing the internal probe, declined to discuss how the rest of the incident unfolded.
Kikisa Dinkins said her son was sitting on the bike with the motor off on the sidewalk when an officer grabbed him by the collar and pulled him off.
"I told them to let go of my baby," Dinkins said. "Since when do you pull a 7-year-old child by his neck and drag him?"
Dinkins said she called for a police supervisor to intervene, but the confrontation continued to escalate after the supervisor arrived.
"They started yelling at him, 'Do you know what you did wrong, son?'" Dinkins said. "He was so scared he ran upstairs."
Police arrested Gerard and confiscated the bike.
Dinkins said officers fingerprinted him and took his mug shot. Hamm could not confirm that and said those actions would not have been normal procedure in a non-felony case.
Dinkins said the arrest scarred her son. "This has changed his life," she said. "He'll never be the same."
The Police Department's zero-tolerance arrest policy—begun under former Mayor Martin O'Malley, who is now Maryland's governor—has drawn complaints that such arrests occur most often in poor, black neighborhoods. Gerard is black.
Hamm said the officer had the option of talking with a parent or confiscating the bike. He said that although the city is concerned about nuisance dirt bikes, the arrest "was not consistent with my philosophy of trying to solve problems in the neighborhoods."
The mayor, who appeared Friday with Hamm, said she also planned to look into the case.
"It is clear to me that the arrest was wrong, that the officers on the scene should not have arrested the child, and on behalf of the City of Baltimore I apologize to the boy and his parents," Dixon said.[/quote]


What is wrong with this picture? You know what nothing. Nothing until some people wake up and realise that something is really wrong here. Where do you get off doing this to a seven year old child? I guess you want to get these young black males use to the jail system really early on, and on the least charge. Couldn't you wait till he was at least ten years old. No
come on now, you see some kid sitting outside apparently his own home, on a bike, with the motor off.

You talk to the child, don't come grab him, like he's some criminal. Then continue to ruff him up, and then when your supervisor comes over, who should know better, the same continues. Then while the mother cries cause you are ruffing up her seven year old child, you blatently ignore it, and take the child to jail, where you interigate him, and finger print him, and take his mug shot. Are you out of your minds? Of course not, this is every day behaviour for you, and until these people wake up and stand up, it will continue to be.

Some days I can hardly believe the stories that I am hearing, but why should I not. Until someone(s) stand up, then these sorts of practices will just continue.

Now I wonder if they offered to make him a part of the community snitching programs, as a condition for his release as they do so many other young black males?

This was obhorant behaviour and for so many different reasons. These officers of the law should know better. They should be out getting real criminals, not children sitting on bikes in front of their own homes with the motor off.

To serve and protect?

STD shot, not safe or effective.

Is your daughter a test subject for this STD shot?
This post is just a quick follow up to the Now your 11, 12 year old daughter can be STD free.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54713
[ex]Harper is a professor and director at the Gynecologic Cancer Prevention Research Group at Dartmouth, and told the publication that there "is not enough evidence gathered on side effects to know that safety is not an issue."
Harper, who has spent much of the last 20 years studying dozens of strains of HPV, said all of her trials have been with subjects ages 15 to 25, and personally she believes the new vaccine could offer help to women ages 18 and up. [/ex]
Not enough evidence to say that safety is not an issue.
[ex]This vaccine should not be mandated for 11-year-old girls," Harper said. "It's not been tested in little girls for efficacy. At 11, these girls don't get cervical cancer – they won't know for 25 years if they will get cervical cancer."
She said the vaccine is not a cancer vaccine or cure – it just prevents development of a virus that could lead to cancer.
"For the U.S. what that means is the vaccine will prevent about half of high-grade precursors of cancer but half will still occur, so hundreds of thousands of women who are vaccinated with Gardasil and get yearly Pap testing will still get a high-grade dysplasia (cell abnormality)," she said.
Harper also reported that the drug company "bridged" the studies to apply to young girls. That means that Merck assumed that because it proved effective in the older girls, it also would be effective in the younger girls.
And she warned more than 40 cases of Guillian-Barre syndrome – an immune disorder that results in tingling, numbness and even paralysis of the muscles – have been reported in girls who got the HPV vaccine in combination with a meningitis vaccine. [/ex]
So not necessarily proven effective in younger girls. Younger girls might I add who are being forced to get this shot.
Oh and also 40 cases of some syndrome which can lead to an immune disorder. Oh why are parents running out and putting their children at risk like this?
[ex]She said the vaccine's purpose has been misinterpreted and mis-marketed so that too many may believe if they've had the vaccine they are immune to cancer – when they are not. [/ex]
Only for people and parents who did not do the research, which I guess is what they count on.
[ex]While calling the vaccine "good" Harper said it is important to realize that if women get the vaccine, but not an routine Pap smear, "what will happen in the U.S. is that we will have an increase in cervical cancer, because the Pap screening does a very good job."
[/ex]
I think I remember saying something like that also. 20 years from now, we could have more cancer than we do now, if woman think they can stop pap tests because of this.
[ex]Texas Gov. Rick Perry in February issued an executive order requiring those vaccinations, but the state House of Representatives in Texas has approved by a 6-1 margin a plan to rescind that.
[/ex]
I really hope that they do rescind the mandatory requirements. Next time the drug pimps want to play with someone, maybe the parents of America will stand up and say, not with our children.

Black out.

I read an article recently that said that Black Woman were having less children.
Of course they are. There children are being decimated to an unspeakable degree, so why should they have more than one child. One less heartbreak.

This is how it seems to be working. Now the following is a highly stereotyped presentation. Your children, especially your male children will be filter and blacked out like this.

First in school. The zero tolerance programs. I keep seeing articles on how these mostly target minority children and how
it's being used to throw them out of the school system and into the arms of the criminal justice system.

The thing that only a few articles have mentioned is that some students, are using this to purposely aggravate and annoy minority students, cause they know that when they lash out, they will be the ones kicked out of school more times than not.

That is something that these articles are not covering. Just like workplace mobbing, your kids are being targeted in schools, and especially your male children.

When they are kicked out of school and banned from every school on the planet, undereducated, unable to get a job, some not all, will turn to a life of crime, this will of course through them into the loving and caring arms of law enforcement and a life time of slavery one way or another.

The rest left in the school, will have friends who are part of this programs who will purposefully try to get their friends into these programs, so they too can be enslaved. Misery loves company.
This is how it's working. If under 18 they will try to get them to become snitches for the civilian spy force. Since young offenders don't serve too much time, they might escape this trap the first time and be slaves behind bars for a short space of time. Others will choose this program and become slaves to the system for the rest of their lives.

The other kids will just keep going in and out of the system till they turn 18, unless you as a parent can pull them out and get them to go straight somehow. Working the 10 jobs that you might be to get them a better life, you might not have the time for both, but God knows you will surly try.

The others will again be offered this program or the lengthy jail time that comes with the new and improved minimum sentences for crimes. Again ensuring that they are likely to choose these spy/snitch programs and a life of slavery to the state, rather than jail. The ones who choose jail, might get 15 years, but at least someday they might know freedom.

If your kids don't manage to get into drugs, or selling drugs, not to worry, the CIA will import drugs into your community to make sure that they do. Should you get a lawyer who then tries to sue the CIA for this, your lawyer will be hounded via the Cointelpro style programs that are in place and be driven from one country to another, till they end up in Israel. http://www.members.tripod.com/aebelle/id9.html


Then there are your children who will get through high school, college and turn out ok. You would think they would be ok then right? Wrong. They will especially with your male children, try to through some multicultural spy nookie their way. This way ensuring that someone always knows what the males are up to, or that their children are integrated into the new and improved multicultural society that we have in the making.

The rest will have baby mama drama, and or affairs, or something to keep them in a constant state of woo.

If you are black, male and you happen to survive and escape the snare of this system, then you are very lucky. If you fit into a category outside of the afforementioned, where the state or government has nothing on you. They have not put you through the system, have not integrated you into some spy force relationship, and you have no drama in your life, that could
be used against you. Congrats, and watch your back, they will be coming after you.

So black woman are having less children, and you wonder why?

Children if you are kicked out of the schools go to the libraries and public areas and finish your education online. It's worth it. Stay out of crime for as long as you can and as much as you can.
Stop snitching it's not just a catchy tee-shirt, it's the only way to save yourselves and society. Be good citizens, if you see a crime do the right thing, but do not become snitches for the state. It's a life of slavery and nothing else.

The other females, if you have managed to escape the single parent, baby momma drama, way to go. However if you have fallen into the societal whore trap, you are not doing much better.
For the ones who finished school, are working at decent jobs, not into anything illegal, not married to a perp, or bred by one, also not a part of these programs, watch your back, they will be coming after you as well.

That's the black out, and if you don't watch yourselves, you will become assimilated and eliminated.

Life a good life, eat your vegetables and stay away from the government. Simple formula, but how many will manage this? If you do watch your back.

If you think this is just a fairy tale, look around you, and don't expect any sympathy from your counterparts in society. I was just on a forum and people think you all should take ownership for your state of affairs.

So take ownership for the targeting you are getting, for the CIA importing drugs into your communities, for the systemic system that still purposely goes after some, the system that will not allow to rise any Messiah that could unite the masses.

Take ownership, make it yours and then rise above it. No one else can, and no one else will.

Kimveer Gill revisited.

Kimveer Gill revisited. Nut job or Stalking Target?

http://www.thetrenchcoat.com/archives/1487-The-blogroll-on-Kimveer-Gill.html

For those with a short memory you might remember that Kimveer Gill was the young Montreal man who went on a shooting spree several months ago killing at least 1 person and wonding at least a dozen others.

Most people just wrote him off as a nut case who was into video games and mixed up fantasy with reality, a goth who hated society. For those of us who stopped to read some of his postings to gain clues to what might have happened, there is an angle that has not been discussed, that has not been talked about.

Here are some of his blog postings that I found really interesting.

Dated September 12, 2006

[quote]Stop Bullying

It?s not only the bully?s fault you know!!It?s the teachers and principals fault for turning a blind eye, just cuz it?s not their job. You fuckers are pathetic.It?s the police?s fault for not doing anything when people conplain (oops, my mistake, the cops are corrupt sons of whores,
so it?s not like they can do anything about it.)
FUCK THE POLICE
It?s society?s fault for acting like it?s normal for people to be assholes to each other. Society disgusts me.It?s everyone?s fault for being so apathetic towards fucking everything that doesn?t affect them personally. FUCK YOU
SOCIETY.[/quote]

It sounds like his bullying, which is what he called it, might have involved trying to get the police to do something, but it sounds like they not only did not do anything about the bullying, they also he ends with calling them corrupt. Why?

Not so outside the realm of what you might find in many other bullying cases, but here is something that is perticularly interesting.

[quote]I wonder why my household has been under surveillance by law enforcement for 6 years now? Makes no sense to me!!
Oh, you?re wondering how I know?lolBet you little monkeys areHey, assholes!!Everything everyone says or does against me is shown to me in my dreams, I see everything. You fucking monkeys.
God, you humans are so inferior.[/quote]

Now he might have been nuts, but it sounds like his bullying might have had other angles that
were never explored.

If Kilmeer Gill was under survellence and if he was for the last six years in a gang stalking like senario, going so far as to try to get help from the police without success, then the things that drove him to commit this terrible act might have been precipitated by what was happening to him. A self fulfilling prophecy so to speak.

Since reading this, I have often wondered if he was a target of this phenomenon, should his blog postings be taken with a grain of salt, or should they be given more weight than most people realise. Should the families of those injured or killed by him, be seeking restitution from the state if they infact did stalk and hound him till he did commit a terrible act.

The truth is we might never know. Though there are some clues on line, there are not enough for me to draw any firm conclusions one way or another, just to have enough of a suspicion that I would like to see examined. If this was happening to him, those around him would have been recruited, and his neighbours would have been spying on him, which could explain why
he suddenly stopped talking to certain people. (Ofcourse it could just be that he was moody.)

The more I know about gang stalking and the bits of his story that bleed through, lead me to believe that their are some questions that should be asked, but will we ever get answers? If I was the family of those people that were injured, or killed, I would ask some questions and dig for deeper answers. This might just be the story of a very deeply troubled young
man, but this on another level could be the story of a deeply troubled society that hounded and harassed a young man to the stage where he was willing to commit such horrendous actions.

It bears further examination. I just won't be the one looking deeper into this, but I invite others to, if you think that there could be more to the story.

Exposing Gang Stalking

*This was my response on the http://www.gangstalkingworld.com forum regarding exposing business that allow gang stalking.

Hi Anthony. I am not sure what you are talking about? There is no need for a list of places that allow gang stalking. Every place allows gang stalking. I bet you would be hard pressed to find one company, one government building, one tribunal board, one law office, that does not have this happening.

This is a system that most people are taking part in. From what I have seen we have the young, we have the old and everything in the middle taking part.

We have men and woman, trans-sexualas, bi-sexuals and one else in between.

We have black, white, Asian, Russian. Indian, African, Caribbean, European, Eastern European and anything else in between.

We have activist, dissidents, anarchists, communists, Taoists, Buddhists, Christian, Muslim, Hindus, Jews, Atheists, etc. We have anything that you can name taking part in this.

I just observed two teens probably 14 years old, doing there skate-boarding thing in the subway, while keeping watch on what was happening till reinforcements came and then they pretended to go off and do their own thing. The really insulting part was one was wearing an anarchist t-shirt. That use to mean something, now it does not.

I am sorry Anthony, but I don't have a clue as to what you mean. Who can we expose, except to say that an extremely large chunk of our population and other populations are taking part in this. I am not sure if you missed it, but this is happening all over the world, or soon will be. Most of the democratic countries and several Asian countries have already reported this. Community based policing which is actually based on a communistic system is alive and well, and thriving and it's starting to be used all over the world. The best you can do is to get countries that use to be free like Canada to talk about it openly, but they won't.

Just like in Red China, Red Russia, or Stasi Germany, people take part, and they keep an eye on the population. These countries have got everyone so scared of looking for terrorist over there, that we don't see that we have become Red over here. There is no one to expose but society. Remember this is a partner ship with corporations, companies, private citizens, snitches, private security, government, the police, civil workers, etc.

All you are seeing is the smaller picture. This is happening on a local level, but within companies it's being used to mob out the vocal, the whistle blowers, the overly moral. They are getting rid of them left right and center. That's why workplace mobbing is on the rise and will continue to be, till those dissenting voices are gone. Then you have whole entire cities that are spying on each other, keeping watch on each other. They are doing what the former East German's did and they are controlling the population with just a small fraction of society, Eg. The East Germans used 1 in 65 to control the country of 16 million. America wanted to have 1 million spies. Canada must have a number closer to what the Americans were going after, because our programs came forward unquestioned, unchallenged.

This is part of a larger system that is working towards, world government, one world government, NWO. So I really don't know what you mean. I mean it's great I guess you mean think global and act local, but most people are too afraid to break rank and talk about these programs. They feel a sense of community that has far too long been lacking in much of society, unfortunately that sense of community that they feel is false and it's a lie. It's being used to kill and destroy innocent people and innocent lives. It's being used to squash and destroy dissidence, it's being used to stifle the voices that would cry out in the wilderness and tell them to repent because what they are doing is wrong. These people will crucify and nail to the cross pretty much anyone they see as unfit.

They have become the terrorist that they have been tricked into fighting, and much like the former East Germany, I don't see how you are going to get this system changed. Since I noticed the gang stalking, do you know how many people of Eastern European decent, I have observed also taking a part in this? I am sure some must be from the old country and were probably on these types of programs in there countries, this also goes for people of other decent. This programing does not leave these people. They seem to like taking part in this, and it will more than likely spread, than not spread. All you need is a small portion of the population to control large sectors of society, and it's working, it's been working for I don't know how long. It's creepy and scary to wake up and realise that your city has turned into a Stasi State. I grew up with warnings of don't turn Red, you don't want to be Red, and now we are Red.

We are increasingly coming under communistic like conditions. The State is trying to tell people how to live, how to behave in society, and the people of these countries are falling in line like mindless sheep, or mindless zombies. They just go along with this and they don't think at all it's scary, it's frustrating, but it's where we are. So when you say that companies should be exposed, I am just simply not sure what you mean. They will work together to destroy a person, remove them, weed them from one community to the next, one apartment, house to the next, one job to the next. The idea is to destroy the person, emotionally, mentally and physically, and when that fails they try to employ other methods, just like the former Soviet Union.

Then they are also trying to put away the dissidents and the activists, mental institutions for the outspoken and the defiant. The homeless and the poor are being systematically eliminated right before our eyes in cities all around the world, but especially it seems in these free thinking Western countries. We have become like those we use to dread and fear. All they had to do was distract us with a new enemy over here, so that we would forget about our old nemesis over there. Now who is in bed with the former Heads of Stasi and KGB? American's that's who. Who is spying on who now? That's right Americans are. Who has to show id cards now? Americans do in some places as part of drills or regular practice for their safety, you understand. Who gets arrested for being outspoken and for not showing id on demand? Americans can and do. Who gets arrested for speaking out about the President, and the War? Americans do. We looked West and the East won, or whoever you want to phrase it, and for some reason people are too blind, deaf, or dumb to realise this, and so the horror just continues.

So it's a system that you would be exposing, a system that will not give justice, or fair play to those that are outside of the system. A system where you can just signal that someone is crazy, a terrorist, pedophile, undesirable, and they will get the short end of the legal system or tribunal hearing, depending on where they seek justice. They will get the short end of the police report, they will be treated like vagrants and vagabonds. It's happening all over, and it's all just part and parcel of a larger more insane game, that may well not end until the world is fully subdued.

The set up.

Set up for stalking.
I recently had an experience which I do believe confirms something that one of our forum members was getting at. Unicorn a forum member pointed out that targets are often set up and stalked long before they ever become targets. Well I think he or she could well have been on to something.

Today I was at a location and I was just kind of standing there looking at the architecture of the building and the stalkers were passing me by on multiple levels and I was just observing how their network was working, the trade off in who goes where directionally, how frequently they move, boring things like that. Anyways one of the stalkers, decided to stop talk to me, and then tried to get a little bit frisky, Mr perv elderly Viagra bunny, tried to first get a little frisk in, and then actually tried to introduce my hand to parts of his anatomy. Not funny very unamusing. So after I told the elderly Viagra bunny on crack to go away. I stopped to mention the incident to the next stalker coming up the walk way, and asked if that was how members of there stalking crew were suppose to act, he offered to mention the incident to the security guard, who was all like, not much I can do about it. He decided it was a mall security issue. Even though the incident happened 2 inches from where the first security guard had jurisdiction, and he had been peering over the rail keeping watch on me about 2 minutes before the incident happened, and he was more than likely in earshot for the whole thing. Now since the bumbling duo were just hovering, I decided to get their names, for the blogging fun of it, because that's the thing to do.
Now they were both like, oh there is really nothing we can do, you really have to call the police. Right call the police to tell them about some geriatric, Viagra taking, energizer bunny on crack. Sure we all have that much time to waste, but they were really pushing for this option. I thanked them for wasting my time, and left. Now it did not occur to me right away, but this was a set up.

The stalkers as I mentioned had a stalking pattern that they had been following, I had been starting to count it off, and it was very regular. When the incident happened with the geriatric pervert, the pattern had stopped. That means that the stalkers were allowing time for the incident to occur and someone somewhere was observing this to see what my reaction would be to this. Ofcourse knowing enough of my character they realised that the incident would probably get reported in some shape or form and then ofcourse the security guards were all too happy to try to push me into the direction of calling the police. The police who we all now know would do jack all, infact this would have put me into a worst situation than before, but also this would probably be used as a reason for the stalking to be initiated. Eg. Let's say I was an unsuspecting target, I was not aware of being stalked previously, let's say I had acted in the human way as expected and called the police on the geriatric pervert, then the incident get's reported some how on the stalking network, that I am making false reports on some geriatric pervert, so then the stalking network uses this as a reason to start the stalking. So the unsuspecting target would probably then note the time of their stalking to this incident, where the truth is they would have been stalked long before this incident happened, this would just have been the catalyst or the excuse for getting the stalking to commence full fledged. What are the chances that this perv is some well liked old geeser that would just never do such a thing? I would say pretty good. I get this now. This bs works with whistle-blowing. Like unicorn had pointed out before, but I don't think I fully understood till not, the thing that the target thinks put the stalking into play, is probably not at all the original factor that really started the stalking, so when you think you know what started it, then go further back.

For me because I have all this knowledge now, I can look back and see that the stalking could have started with the incident with the police, Rogers, but more than likely my stalking started before either of these two incidents and I am going to have to go back to find out where. More than likely these incidents were used as a set up or a catalyst, to make me aware of the stalking, a reason or an excuse for the stalkers to become more overt with what was happening, but this more than likely could go back even further than that.

After the incident and as the geriatric pervert went on his way, is when there stalking pattern started again. So if it had stopped long enough for this incident to occur, this means that they were aware that this was going to go down, and the helpful security guards were more than likely pressing for the police to be called for said reason of the set up. So when you think you know why your stalking started, go back even further.

Tips for targets.

In the last seven to eight months I have learnt so much about gang stalking and what it's really like to be a targeted individual. To wake up one day and discover that you are literally being followed around and spied on wherever you go and no matter what you do, no matter where you are.

I have spent the last 8 years being harassed and mobbed, at work and in the community, however the last 7 months were a discovery. It's was to awaken from a nightmare to learn that not only was I not alone, but that this had all been planned, coordinated and carried out.
To have friends, family, neighbours, coworkers all be a part of a grand conspiracy designed to destroy your life and drive you to ruin, suicide, jail, institutionalisation, or poverty. It's been a real trip and one that I would rather to have done without, but it's let me become more aware of my world at a critical time when I might not have been otherwise.

To learn that your city, much like many others around the world have become mini Stasi States, with people spying and informing on each other, allegedly to protect their communities. Realising that this horror and this nightmare is not only encouraged by the State and the government, but also fully sanctioned.

The worst part, having no idea why or where it started or originated from. Trying to trace back your history over the last decade or so, to try to find out where this might have started from, to try to see if there was any rhyme or reason for this and discovering that there might not be or that you might never find it.

On top of this was getting a first class introduction to electronic harassment, and then having a full intense session for the next 4-5 months. Your very home becomes a torture chamber and you physically tortured with weapons that can actively be denied by the neighbourhood sociopaths who are taking part in these harassment's. You don't get to see or know the damage that has been done and most doctors, either won't openly acknowledge that these exist or they don't realise that these exist and can be used and are being used at none governmental levels.

To find out everything you ever learnt about Democracy and your country is not really true. It's only true under certain conditions, To find out that the world is not really the place that you learnt that it is. It's to live through a silent nightmare that has taken the lives of others, driven others to take their own lives, made other beggar and vagabond on the streets or in jails, made others permanent residents of institutions where they may never been heard from again.

In the midst of this storm you have to find a way to live, to survive, stay alive so that you can share your story with others, so that you can leave for others what others have left for you. To try to understand the living day-mare that has become your life. Somehow through this all you have to find your strength and your character must prevail or you realise that you may not. In the midst of this you learn all about human nature, and all the lessons that you learnt from the past start to make sense.

You learn to understand how the Salem witch trails took place, the Nazi Holocaust, the interment of the Japanese, all those events in history begin to make sense with such clarity, and you vehemently hope for the best, but you constantly remain aware of those who have gone before, and those who will come after. The ones who were not so lucky or so fortunate to find out in time, to try to stem the tide of malice that would over take and conquer their lives.

You learn to adapt to the unfathomable and you try to make others aware of a reality that is just so hard to believe that you would not believe it if you were not living it. Yet you still try, because you realise that awareness is the only way you can make others aware, and maybe get this nightmare stopped, and so you learn to do what you can for yourself and for others.

In the course of all this, I have found a reservoir which I always believed that I would have, should something like this come along, but who would ever believe such a thing could be. I have learnt to have perspective that I did not fully have prior to this. I have learnt in some ways to have less compassion for somethings, and some people, and in other cases to have more compassion for some things and some people.

I have had to cut ties that I thought would last a very long time, but I realise for me to be healthy and well, some times must be severed and so they have been. I not realise that I am most likely in this fight for some time to come and so I plan accordingly and don't look too far ahead, but I remain very vigilant. I find comfort in helping other targets, having a place where they can come and be heard, or just being able to impart my knowledge on them and being able to help them understand and learn what it took me months to do. It' s pretty rewarding helping others, it's something I have always strived to do, and I find even in the midst of this storm I have found new ways to do so, and so that is where I am currently on my path.

Here are some tips I hope can help others going through the same situation. I hope it can give them a basic structure with enough information to help them get adjusted quicker and to arm themselves with knowledge and defend themselves sooner, so that maybe they can stem the tide.

I am becoming the person I wanted to be. I would have preferred avoiding the clip trip through hell to do so, but it's made me a stronger, better, more aware person and much more compassionate about the suffering of others and the realities of the world that I really live in.

1. Try to gain some idea as to when your stalking might have started. Try to narrow it down to a 5 year time frame. If you think you know when your stalking started, think back further and keep looking for the answers. Eg. There is a guy online who thinks his stalking started because he dated a woman who he later learned was married. He thinks that's where it began, however unicorn another forum member suggested that it might have started even before this. The man had mentioned that his friends at work had introduced him to the work site, where he met the woman who ended up getting him stalked. Unicorn thought that the friends from work had set him up to go to that site, meet that woman, and then get into trouble for dating a married woman. Unicorn thought that plots like this happened many years before a target ever realised they were targets. That's why I say when you think you know, go further back and see if there could be anything else.

2. Many targets seems to have strong moral, ethical, or religious beliefs. This is something that a lot of targets do seem to have. They get picked off for being whistle-blowers, dissidents, activists, etc. Again it might appear that these are the reasons, but it could also be that you are placed specifically in such situations so that you will have to blow the whistle and thus getting stalked.

3. I recommend asking for a copy of your FOIA. Freedom of information records. I think this is a good idea at the local and federal levels.

4. You probably have a slander campaign ongoing, with people trying to make it seem as if you are crazy, a sex predator, drug dealer or a combination if not worst. Slander is something they use.

5. When they are in public, they are using a one handed sign language to communicate, look for things like baseball signal. Touching the nose, pulling on the ears, stroking the hair back, Things like that. I believe it's a one handed sign language called Talking Hands. It's a sign language that the hearing impaired use out in public and also the police to communicate.

6. The gang stalking is part of the new community based policing initiatives, that means many people in your community, neighbourhoods, workplaces, school, etc are a part of these programs. They are suppose to be an extra set of eyes and ears for the community. These people cover for each other and go out of their way to harass someone till it's impossible for them to stay in a community, workplace, school, homes, etc.

7. If you file a police report, keep it short and sweet and get a copy. The police have a habit of not filing these reports. Filing them and leaving them blank, or twisting around what you reported to make you seem crazy.

8. The network is becoming international, which presents a real problem for targets. Even when they travel they are not able to find safe places.

9. Places like Amnesty International, and other human rights groups, refuse to help or lend assistance with what is ongoing. It does not mean that you should not try to get help from them, but just be aware of what is happening.

10. Start video taping what they are doing to you, get a camcorder and tape recorder. For you home, also tape record your home when you are out.

11. Stop leaving your food opened, perps have been known to drug and tamper with food, and they will try to make you ill or give you drugs to make you act out.

12. Place extra locks on doors, and windows.

13. In your house and apartment they know where you are because they will install through the wall sensors, which you set off as you walk and that is how they know.

14. Your best defense is a lawyer, if you can find one who knows what's going on and who is willing to take on your case. You should try to find a lawyer that is aware of what is going on with community policing, but who is not a part of the program. You need someone who is aware of what's happening, but who can be neutral.

15. The police and the fire department are involved. The police and the fire department are involved, because the police are the ones who are running, or helping to run these community based program. You can try to get their assistance, but don't count on it, and it has the potential to make your situation worst.

16. Try not to loose your temper out in public. The ones in public are going out of there way to make sure you loose your temper. They will follow you and cough at you, stand too close, they coordinate the actions, if you watch them long enough you will begin to see this. Just look for the hand signals. Usually they will yawn or cover their mouths to start the communication.

17. Don't trust anyone but yourself. The reason behind this is that many people on line are perps. Even people who run support sites, and websites, some are perps. This is true for other community platforms not just gang stalking. For some reason, I guess to throw targets off, we have people who are total perps, pretending to be targets, to gain info from targets, find out stuff about them that can later be used.

18. Anything you share online assume it's public record. Nothing is private nothing is sacred.
This is true offline and online.

19. If you joined the spy network, this might stop the harassment, but I am not sure, and why would you want to join in with villains that are terrorising you.

20. Start an online blog and document all the things that they do. It's important to have some sort of record, let others know what's happening, or just vent a little and get some feedback. Again careful what you say, cause it has the potential to be used in an adverse manner.

21. If you are being gang stalked and you have a family, some of them might already have been compromised. Many targets have families that have been compromised. This would happen long before you discovered you were a targets. If you have a family just be aware of this and take precautions to protect yourself.

22. They will try to put people in your life and get people close to you, it will seem like oh an accidental meeting, unexpected, they will be your sort of person, but they will be placed there to find out info about you, get access to your home, and help with destroying your life.

23. Moving does not seem to help, but if it gets really bad, and you can't handle it, then get out. Nothing is more important than you.

24. In addition to being gang stalking, electronic weapons can be used against targets. These can include, microwave weapons, acoustic weapons, lasers, etc.

25. Youtube and other file sharing sites are a good way to get the word out about gang stalking. Put up videos about gang stalking.

26. Your cellphone can be used to track you, monitor your conversations and bug your home. It's better to not give out your phone number.

27. This rule should actually be number one, it's the one thing that I think that targets should not over look. It has many great applications and benifits and no matter what your spiritual background is, at a time like this you use it for your advantage and pray. To some it will seem hooky or obvious, but for many it's an over looked source and a very important one, so I say pray. Pray often and repeatedly. Pray.

28. Remember you are not alone.

Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib concentration camps.

Why does no one talk about this? I guess because the United States is the most powerful government on the face of the planet, no one takes the time to mention the fact that they have 2 active concentration camps for men and woman who were housed there.

Just to be clear these are concentration camps.

http://www.answers.com/concentration+camp&r=67Quote:n.A camp where civilians, enemy aliens, political prisoners, and sometimes prisoners of war are detained and confined,
typically under harsh conditions.A place or situation characterized by extremely harsh conditions.[/quote]

http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/timeline/camps.htm
Quote:Camps were an essential part of the Nazis' systematic oppression and mass murder of Jews, political adversaries, and others considered socially and racially undesirable. There were concentration camps, forced labor camps, extermination or death camps, transit camps, and prisoner-of-war camps. The living conditions of all camps were brutal.

http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?id=3690
Some who are being tortured, beaten, raped, killed, or driven to suicide. The health conditions are horrific. The world waits, watches and just let's it continue.

Why don't these things get talked about?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/reich.html
People will look back and say these were horrible things, and there will be law suits and eventually some lame government apology that will mean little or next to nothing, and it will be the same bs. We did what we had to do, we are different now.

These things could never happen again. You know what, it is happening again. We have these camps again, but no one talks about it.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/531
Innocent men and woman were been picked up and forced into these camps. Some were sold into these camps. Some might be guilty but do we know? No because they have not been charged with anything, how can you be truly guilty, if you have not been charged with anything? They have had no charges laid against them, but they have just been placed in darkness and hell by one of the most powerful governments in the world.

The United Nations is doing nothing, and I mean nothing. If any other country on the planet and done this to other human beings, there would be sanctions and censure, but there is nothing.

They lie in hell, darkness and misery, without knowing what they are being charged with, without access to a lawyer, without knowing when and if they will ever get out of those hells.

I always wonder how things like this could happen. How could the German people let this happen to the Jews, how could they have done that?

Why did we intern the Japanese during WWII?

Why didn't the world step in sooner?

Why didn't people protest?

And now I know why. Because I am living in such a time, and it's unbelievable. We sit back and we do this to others, and our excuse is that someone hit us first, just like Hitlers excuse with the reichstag fire.

http://dmorgan.web.wesleyan.edu/materials/weimar.htm

Quote:This bill, which receives the necessary two-thirds majority with the aid of the Center Party, grants full legislative powers to the cabinet without requiring the assent of the Reichstag. It is the formal basis of Hitler’s power for the remainder of the Third Reich.

Because they told themselves that these people were bad, that they were destroying the country, that they were the heart of what was wrong and that by careening them into these camps, it was for the safety of everyone else. They spread lies and propaganda, and dehumanised them.

History looked back in condemnation, but why can we not stem the tide and condemn this? Why can we not get past our fears, and stupidity long enough to see that what we are doing is wrong, we are now becoming the monsters, that we seek to protect ourselves from? Is our fear so blind that we can not see what we are doing to others?

9/11 and Peal harbour were both horrible events and they gave us the means, motive and opportunity to do a lot of really unpleasant things to others, that we should realise that we should not be doing, but we make excuses, and let things happen to others that we should not.

We preach democracy and what we really mean is democracy for us, but not for others. We invade others countries and occupy them, for illicit false reasons. Yet there are no sanctions, there is no true censor.

The world sits by and watches as this happens again. It not the same numbers as the German concentration camps, I don't know if the numbers come close to the Japanese internment camps, but it's the same actions that we will be apologizing for in the future, but it will be very little and it will be to even less avail. You can't give back a life that you have destroyed.

We tell ourselves that we are doing this to guarantee ourselves and our children's security and protection, but the world has not become a safer place by these actions, it's become less safe if anything. No one calls the camps what they are.

I guess there were sane voices in every time period, ones that saw and recognised the evils of their times. The Germans who hid the Jews, till the evil could pass.

The people who did not go along with interning the Japanese, or who spoke out against it. However these voices are always in short supply during these time periods, or they are being shut down or shut up. That should not be the case.

I wish that these evil times would pass, I wish people would wake up and realise that we are not making the world a safer place, and we will not be until we practice what we preach. It's the biggest hypocrisy, to say that you are a democratic society and that you practice democracy, but then you deny it to others.

WWII I always asked myself. Why didn't the world step in sooner? Now I know why.

The big picture.

I have just been finding out that gang stalking might be very similar to getting weeded out of the community.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Levant/nancy22.htm
In this article that came out last year it talks about the community based policing initiatives, and the similarity to communism systems that have gone before.

[quote]The Weed and Seed Program, recruiting tattling neighbors, and 24-hour a day armed spies, pinpoint potential “trouble makers” to the mesmerized community, and targets them for “weeding.” Weeding means to harass offending individualists to the point of making it impossible for them to remain in the compliant community of smiley-faced Communists.

For real life examples, the children of “individualists” are harassed for running, for walking on the single-lane community roads with no sidewalks, and for playing unsupervised at any age or at any location – even their yards. They are, in fact, ticketed by COPS personnel, and are then told that they will be denied the ability to enjoy the great out of doors if the offending behaviors persist.

Yes, in fact, children who live in deed-restricted and closed communities can be forced to remain indoors at all times or face further penalties, including all rights to community activities. Does this sound like America to you? [/quote]

I don't know about America, but some parts of this sound just like my city right now. Being weeded out of a community that I have done nothing to hurt or harm. Being harassed from job to job and place to place, and realising finally that it's all just part of a larger picture that is coming down the line.

You don't have to be guilty of anything, you just have to be different. Different can mean outspoken, can mean you are single and do not like to mingle, odd, an activist, minority, dissident, just someone who does not fit the type cast, of the community or their snitching programs.

The article also goes on to point out that this system that is coming down the pipeline is not just happening in America, it's happening all over the world, which is true of community based policing.

[quote]Equally, many of these communities hire former military and/or law enforcement to “oversee” and administer the deed-restricted eco-communities and their paid squads. For further examples of social control, I refer you to the communist housing sectors of the Soviet Union and their COPS program called the KGB.

Now, let us also compare Transformational and Fabian Marxism to “Total Quality Management.” TQM is used to “transform” existing organizational structures in business and/or government. TQM has a professional ring to it, no? It also employs group dynamics, strategic planning councils (facilitators and change agents), problem solving, and Systems Management. Hmmm. Looks exactly like Marxism to me, the dialectic in action, so to speak, and another “professional” layer to BS the shift into Communist control in both business and governmental institutions, as well. Now, back to COPS. TQM has, indeed, restructured most police departments in the United States as well as most other governmental departments. Not only have politicians become “facilitators and change agents,” most clearly demonstrated in their pre-panned outcomes and refusal to listen to American citizens, but unbeknownst to most law enforcement personnel, so have they. Once again, COPS is a federally funded program administered through the U.S. Department of Justice. Police are now trained into a “team” concept of law enforcement and community via TQM training. Police are taught to be “facilitators and change agents” in their communities. This is of particular interest, as American living is becoming predominantly deed-restricted, landless, and closed and/or gated “community” living. What you are witnessing is the philosophical shift in traditional policing responsibilities and duties, which used to be tracking down the bad guys and helping citizens, to police becoming “change agents” to push the governmental shift from Constitutional and God-based nation to Socialist/Communist government, landless living, and a diversified, in-crisis, and atheist nation. Sorry, but facts are facts. Refer to the following quote from Socialist Marxist Georg Lukacs about “facilitators:” [/quote]

Well I can tell you that the police here are focusing on change and problem solving, which on paper sounds great, but in other countries where this is happening the results are something quite different.

[quote]“The community of interest generated by crime, disorder, and fear of crime becomes the goal to allow community policing officers an entire into the geographic community.” Did that direct quote from the father of Community Oriented Policing Services sink in? Social chaos is the GOAL that ensures communities enforced with rent-a-COPS. The “crisis” of crime and disorder is the goal for the police officer as facilitator/change agent to enter the community and initiate the paradigm shift from self-determination and Constitutionally guaranteed freedom to Communistic control. Social architects, right now, are training your local law enforcement. We, the taxpayers, are paying for the removal of the only barrier between a tyrannical government and the private citizen. Your neighborhood police officer is becoming that trained facilitator - the Soviet. But why police officers? [/quote]

Scare us into taking part and making our communities, better and safer for our own good, while transforming us into something that we won't even recognise.

[quote]If you are living in a closed, gated, eco, and/or privately policed community, welcome to Communism in America. Welcome to controlled living. Welcome to the world of handing your freedom, your family, your human rights, your opinions, and dignity to armed controllers. And while your children continue their “educations” in the public schools that you continue to support, and then come home to guarded and patrolled communities, welcome to the destruction of your children’s rights to family values, innocence, childhood, freedom, opinion, and future. [/quote]

The good news is that most people will not even notice, and for others that do, they will be long go, before that time fully comes.

The rest will simply fall in line and not object to the changes that are taking place, if they should happen to notice.

http://www.trumpetamerica.org/060219ta2004.html

[quote]American communitarians promote the same kinds of surveillance and neighborhood informants the communists used to control East Germans. Americans are slowly being taught what East Germans had to learn very quickly. Today the KGB trains "community" police all over America. Our friendly neighborhood cops are saving our communities from criminals and terrorists. [/quote]

I always wondered how the German people were made to fall in line and to start spying and watching each other, how they could be so controlled and brain washed and why they did not rebel. However I see the same thing happening before my eyes, some are being pulled in with lies, some with threats, bullying, intimidation, and some for the power. The same thing is happening, but most people won't see it, and they won't believe it, why should they? It's the scariest thing to see the direction of where the world is heading and to not feel like there is anything you can do to stem the tides or stop the flow.

[quote]Community policing is a federal program under the Department of justice. American community cops are not actually neighborhood cops. Unlike real cops who investigate and arrest people for real crimes, these new cops provide community services. Our new cops are problem solvers. [/quote]

Coming to a city near you. Are you seeing the bigger picture yet? Do you even realise that there is one to be seen?

[quote]LA-21 COPS suggested numerous ways to solve community problems. The new COPS helped local governments rewrite local rules to allow COPS access to private homes. Each community now has a special unit of Community Services Officers (CSO). CSO duties include visiting homes and people in the neighborhoods and identifying personal problems. COPS train all government employees to report any signs of a "threat" while inside homes on routine duties. The list of threats that must be reported includes messy kitchens, unlocked garbage cans, unwashed children, domestic noise, abuse, marijuana growing operations and methamphetamine labs. Workers are trained to log threats into a national ID database program called COMPASS. COMPASS is the acronym for Community Mapping, Planning and Analysis for Safety Strategies. COMPASS was created in 1999 by officials at the COPS headquarters in D.C. [/quote]

Ah just like the old country, but this is not the old country, these are democratic countries and we fought to have these freedoms, and yet we are slowly letting them get erroded.
I just had a glance at the big picture that is a coming down the line. I realise that I will be far from alone, what is happening to me right now, is soon going to be the fate of many others, and this silent insidious sleep that keeps the world lulled to the realities of our times, will not soon be broken and the world will not soon be awoken.